(May 22, 2013 at 2:24 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: No pretending required, Joseph Stalin is receiving justice as we speak for murdering 50 million of his fellow countryman. If God didn’t exist then he got off Scot free and died one of the most powerful men in the World. I take comfort in knowing justice was served.
This reveals much about your motivation for your belief.
You have an infantile need for justice after death.
Joseph Stalin did "get away" with his crimes as did Jimmy Saville.
It perhaps was not justice but is the truth.
Now grow a pair and suck it up.
Quote:You’re usually a bit more eloquent than this FNM. No, it God didn’t exist neither of us would be here right now.
You do know that we don't believe in your god because it is a stupid idea do you not?
Quote:No, God’s upholding grace prevents all of us from being as evil as we could be, we do not deserve any credit for not committing such evil acts. How are you defining “right” here?
What sort of monster are you that the only thing stopping you from rampaging through your town is your belief in a magic man?
I don't go around doing evil because I am a nice person.
(May 22, 2013 at 8:53 am)Faith No More Wrote: I just get frustrated hearing all of this "as an atheist you can't prove something is immoral" crap, as if it is impossible to determine what you should and sh
Quote:There’s no need to get frustrated, if you believe my statement is wrong then just prove it. Provide a logically sound syllogism that proves child molestation would be wrong independent of time and place in a Universe devoid of God’s existence. If it’s sound I’ll admit I was wrong.
Because I have empathy I can put myself in the position of the child and think "I would not like to be treated like that".
Also mistreating a child would often have consequences if other members of society found out, particularly the parents
I really do not see a need for a deity of any kind to account for morals.
Quote:the following characteristics are shared by humans and other social animals, particularly the great apes:
attachment and bonding, cooperation and mutual aid, sympathy and empathy, direct and indirect reciprocity, altruism and reciprocal altruism, conflict resolution and peacemaking, deception and deception detection, community concern and caring about what others think about you, and awareness of and response to the social rules of the group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_morality
Again I break out this old doozy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyd6om8IC4M
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.