(May 30, 2013 at 6:50 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:(May 30, 2013 at 6:38 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote: SOCIETIES are certainly allowed to adopt their own morals and norms. And yes, we have the right to punish them because that is our societal norm.
Ok, so where does the right for societies to adopt their own morality come from?
There is no governing body that allows and approved a societies morals. The morals are a function of the society. It is not a "right" per se, it is a natural function or effect of organized society.
(May 28, 2013 at 5:35 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote: Not at all. That is entirely possible. I'm not saying that makes it right, but it still makes it acceptable, from their point of view, within their society.
Quote:Well we’re talking about what is morally right and what is morally wrong are we not? So it is possible for an entire society to act in a manner that is morally wrong?
Quote:Indeed we are. And from their perspective, they are morally right. They are not morally right by OUR societal standards, but right by theirs.
Quote: There is not a society on Earth that doesn't have moral dissenters. That doesn't make them morally wrong, but it does make them moral outsiders.
Quote:What’s the difference between someone behaving in a manner that is morally wrong and someone being a moral outsider?
Being a moral outsider does not necessarily mean they are ACTING immorally. For instance, the denizens Iran, by and large, are not out killing people in terrorist attacks. However, their societal norms allow that kind of behavior. My guess is that they DON'T do it because they find it morally wrong.
My point is that societal norms and morals do not necessarily dictate action or necessarily define morals for the individual.
Not sure that is a great example, but I think it gets the point across.
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