(June 5, 2013 at 9:52 am)Arellius Wrote: Your faith, is also the faith of some of my close friends, and my friends experience it differently from you. However I do see allot of similarities in their stories. They believe their superiors of the church they attend.I'm going to stop you right there. "Believe their superiors"? I don't think so. That's why we left the Roman Catholic Church 500 years ago. In fact, it is paramount - it isn't even negotiable - it's a Christian's right to disagree over matters of faith with clergy, or other church officials.
Quote:A friend of mine told me that one of the leading ladies of the church witnessed a miracle; She was getting robbed, and the robber shot her but the bullet did not penetrate her, it bounced off of her. My friend told me this with such belief, I was stunned!!That's hearsay, I understand why you would be unimpressed.
Quote:You get schooled all the time, by the people leading your faith, and by the people who think it's nonsense. By this response you gave me I presume that you know allot about your faith, and in a face to face discussion with me you probably could correct me on more than a few things. However, were you to discuss or debate with Christopher Hitchens (Science Rest His Soul) or a Richard Dawkins, you'd be schooled 6 ways through Sunday School.Pffft, more like I would school Dawkins on his worldview and the perverse nature with which he sees science. But that's an aside.
Quote:Sarcasm; Islam is a Religion. In this topic I am addressing all religions where they think under age sex was normal.You haven't even defined "under age sex". And frankly I don't know why you insist on using that phrase.
Quote:My issue lies with men (who think it's alright by their faith) whom are in their 30's and 40's bed girls between 12-15.Well the practises by the Jews here were really no different from those around them in the sense of the age of marriage anyway, so as for it being a "matter of faith" you can forget that. As I've pointed out to you, in secular society it was quite common up until about 150ish years ago for girls under 15 to be married to older men. It's now not even legal - at least in Australia - the minimum age for Marriage is 18, and while minors can apply to the court to get married (with parental consent, of course) it won't be granted for anyone under 17, so we've now come right away from the younger age for marriage.
But - as I keep pointing out to you - this is because women now have more options in life, and especially because of education!!
Quote:There are approximately 55 countries in Africa, and you say 'some places'. Which ones exactly ? Sure, in Kenya the risk could be above 30% and the issue lies mostly in the slums (Kibera/Korogocho). HIV/AIDS developed from Chimpanzees [SIV] and was a blood to blood transfer when hunters were cutting the animals for food.Incorrect. If you're going to teach me history at least get your history right. The fact that HIV originated from SIV is well documented/evidenced. Exactly how it developed to HIV is still hotly debated.
Quote:However, that's one story. Another is that it originated in the gay scene of Los Angeles when they realized that unprotected sex can lead to certain death. God creates homo-sexuals, God makes some religions (I think almost all) abolish homo sexuality, God gives homo-sexuals AIDS so he can judge them later for being a bad person...But created them in the FIRST PLACE ??!! LOGIC !!!!!Are you attempting to make a straw man argument here?
Promiscuity is what transmitted HIV to the epidemic levels that it is. The fact that in Western countries like Australia it is transmitted among minority groups (mostly gay's) is irrelevant.
Quote:Oh, but for a Catholic priest/Protestant ministers to have sex with a little boy is oke because it's not in the scriptures...FUUUUUUUCK OFF !! hahahahahaFirstly, we have priests too - duh - and secondly, of course it's not OK - duh.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke