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What happened to the Amelekites according to the bible is what I repeated. I made no claim of anything new. I have nothing to support. I merely pointed out the difference in what you were saying.
Next... you repeat that God killing is immoral, but provide no good reason to support that. You only support reason why humans should not kill.
Now I don't think I'm knowledgeable enough to know for certain the guilt or innocence of anyone, or what measure of punishment is deserved. You and I are both tied by the current fashion in secular morality. Our (UK) legal system is limited to removing a persons freedom for an entire lifetime. But what you're failing to address here, is the fact that God knows exactly what the person is thinking, and how their whole life pans out. Exactly what they will do in the future. He knows enough to judge fairly if that life deserves to continue. Ours is a plea to emotion as we cannot object rationally. Our only justification for letting a person live is the lack of knowledge of that persons ability to reform. It is a Christian principle that everyone has the potential to change their minds. That can't apply to God. He does know.
1. God is just
2. The bible has nothing immoral in it committed by God
Those are the facts as they stand. Until someone can disprove them.
Is secular morality (as I've explained) correct? I believe so. On the grounds that people lack knowledge. Does that secular morality apply to God? No. His knowledge is not limited.
Freedom to choose: so because God knows how your life pans out, he's taking away the freedom you would have had in the choices you would have made after you died.
You're talking about Gods decision here to justly terminate your life right? You made choices to oppose good that would justify that. In your natural lifetime you wouldn't do anything to change that. Your choices to carry on doing evil are denied you, justly.
You aren't free to defy the laws of nature. In Christianity, you aren't free to escape justice.
Gardeners destroy a whole garden if there is a disease bad enough to threaten other gardens.
My stance is fully consistent. God is just. Christopher Hitchens was a good bloke giving people reason to think and challenge their preconceptions. Evil comes in degrees. So does punishment for evil. We may wonder why a just God would let a particularly vile criminal live. But then we don't know what that criminal might do in the future. Only God can know and fairly judge.
To children the world is mostly black and white. Stuff is either right or wrong. This seems to be the reasoning you're asking us to adopt here. As we mature we appreciate the shades of grey. I'm always up for a raunchy read. Joke!
What happened to the Amelekites according to the bible is what I repeated. I made no claim of anything new. I have nothing to support. I merely pointed out the difference in what you were saying.
Next... you repeat that God killing is immoral, but provide no good reason to support that. You only support reason why humans should not kill.
Now I don't think I'm knowledgeable enough to know for certain the guilt or innocence of anyone, or what measure of punishment is deserved. You and I are both tied by the current fashion in secular morality. Our (UK) legal system is limited to removing a persons freedom for an entire lifetime. But what you're failing to address here, is the fact that God knows exactly what the person is thinking, and how their whole life pans out. Exactly what they will do in the future. He knows enough to judge fairly if that life deserves to continue. Ours is a plea to emotion as we cannot object rationally. Our only justification for letting a person live is the lack of knowledge of that persons ability to reform. It is a Christian principle that everyone has the potential to change their minds. That can't apply to God. He does know.
1. God is just
2. The bible has nothing immoral in it committed by God
Those are the facts as they stand. Until someone can disprove them.
Is secular morality (as I've explained) correct? I believe so. On the grounds that people lack knowledge. Does that secular morality apply to God? No. His knowledge is not limited.
Freedom to choose: so because God knows how your life pans out, he's taking away the freedom you would have had in the choices you would have made after you died.
You're talking about Gods decision here to justly terminate your life right? You made choices to oppose good that would justify that. In your natural lifetime you wouldn't do anything to change that. Your choices to carry on doing evil are denied you, justly.
You aren't free to defy the laws of nature. In Christianity, you aren't free to escape justice.
Gardeners destroy a whole garden if there is a disease bad enough to threaten other gardens.
My stance is fully consistent. God is just. Christopher Hitchens was a good bloke giving people reason to think and challenge their preconceptions. Evil comes in degrees. So does punishment for evil. We may wonder why a just God would let a particularly vile criminal live. But then we don't know what that criminal might do in the future. Only God can know and fairly judge.
To children the world is mostly black and white. Stuff is either right or wrong. This seems to be the reasoning you're asking us to adopt here. As we mature we appreciate the shades of grey. I'm always up for a raunchy read. Joke!
