RE: What is "FAITH"
July 13, 2013 at 5:56 pm
(This post was last modified: July 13, 2013 at 5:59 pm by pineapplebunnybounce.)
(July 13, 2013 at 5:19 pm)Consilius Wrote:Mistakes:(July 13, 2013 at 3:57 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: AssumptionThe cause of the universe made time, hence it was not limited by time. Edison didn't need a lightbulb. The cause of the universe is timeless.
The cause of the universe made cause, hence it is not a product of cause. The father of cause cannot also be the son of cause. Therfore, it is uncaused.Quote:Assumption. you still haven't addressed how causation works without time.Our cause of the universe does not need time to make time, as Edison didn't need to work by electrical light. The cause of the universe caused the universe without using time. The expansion of the universe (time) helped the universe to cause things in a more independent manner. You can build a robot without the help of a robot and let the machine do what you could do yourself, but on its own. Yet the robot can do nothing outside of what it was intended to do and its all of your idea.
1. confusing time with mass.
2. i've underlined the statements that have graduated from the school of assumption and moved on to the school of i-completely-made-this-up.
3. illogical reasonings (italicized)
And this is why you don't have a nobel prize.
(July 13, 2013 at 5:47 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: Consilius, I ended this game 5+ pages back, and you never responded to my correction as to why you are just plain wrong:@ MFM: he tends to ignore the parts he has no answers to. and then make new arguments like nothing happened. or repeats his old ones like nothing happened.
(July 12, 2013 at 10:02 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: The universe had an origin of a sort, but regardless your question is malformed. For starters, you need to define what you mean by 'universe'.
Clearly you cannot be defining it as the totality of existence, because then your question answers itself: it always has existed in some form.
And:
(July 12, 2013 at 10:32 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: What? No one here has said the universe will cease to exist. If you're referring to the 'fate' of the universe (i.e Heat death, etc.), the universe still exists, just in a different form.