(July 16, 2013 at 6:32 pm)Rahul Wrote:And ilegalizing it does not make them less your slaves. Most people in your country have abandoned their own identities on their own free will, but the blacks were forcefully stripped of it. This still makes them slaves, though they are not bound to "serve" you, they are still descendants of slaves, not free people.(July 16, 2013 at 6:07 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: And do you believe that these slaves are really loyal to you? As though as any slave, one day, they will serve another master, when the time comes.
You need to brush up on current events. Slavery was illegalized in our country 148 years ago.
Don't sell African-Americans short. They have a rich cultural identity. They have fought along side of us in every war our country has had. African-Americans are part of the rich tapestry of our nation.
And as slaves, they do not really give a damn if you were so kind to free them afterwards, for you still subjected them to slavery, not just bodily slavery, but slavery of the mind. They have nowhere else to go, man.
It is as the story of the Mankurt. I will tell you of it.
Once upon a time, a great mighty dynasty had ruled our ancestral homeland, the Rouran. They practiced slavery, as did all steppe people, but they have perfected it. They would take a slave, and shave his head, then attach a still fresh and blood patch of camel on skin on their head. Then, they would bind this slave with ropes on a wooden pole, exposing them to the baking hot sun. The skin would eventually dry and shrink, compressing the skin of the head, hurting them. In time, the hair would not be able to grow in the normal direction as it would before, and it would ingrow and cause further pain. They were of course, fed, and were given water during the time, and were left there for many days. Most would not survive, but those who did, would go mad, and completely forget about who they were what they were, and would simply exist to serve their masters. They were as dogs, you see.
However you have abolished the need for them to serve their masters, and now they go about aimlessly, with no real purpose of their own, yet still have no memory of what or who they were, they have simply accepted the identity their masters have given them.
So do not tell me that just by abolishing their need to be servile to you, you have freed them.
African Americans have a "rich cultural identity"? Yes, no more than the common American I'd say, though I believe that they also lack any sort of knowledge about ancestry, or how and why they actually they came here. Some Americans have come there with a noble purpose in their mind. They were not allowed to worship God in the way they saw was right, so they have left their homes to find a place where they can properly worship God in peace. A noble purpose indeed. These people can actually look back on that. Some came there to actually "pursue happiness", a place that was still virgin, untouched and unspoiled, a place of liberties and of course many other things. As for blacks, they have come there as slaves. Their existence there is not of their own choice, but of the choice of someone else. They have nothing to look back, and say "I came here to do this" or "for that purpose".
Just as a dog is glad to die for his master, for his master throws him bones, feeds him(as you have given them their so-called liberty), they have attended your wars, though I don't see them being actually on the same level as you. And from the threads I've read here, racism is still at large in this and of liberty and freedom, what purpose did it serve for them to fight for you? Nothing!
But just as the Mankurt, they really do not realize what goes on, and why they are fighting for a country that has brought them here not on their free will. I think it wasn't me who first laid down these facts.
And they have distanced themselves from this nice big tapestry of yours, as they were never a part of it to begin with as much as you'd like to think they are.
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