RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
July 24, 2013 at 7:45 pm
(This post was last modified: July 24, 2013 at 7:47 pm by fr0d0.)
(July 24, 2013 at 6:30 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: It's a sensitive issue for the mother, not for anyone else.Well there's the father too. But hey.
(July 24, 2013 at 6:30 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: You are telling me that it's justified at this point in time to bring life into this world to a mother who does not want it, or isn't prepared to take care of it. That this would be a good thing to do, and to do this is to be in touch with your humanity?Where do you get this stuff?!
I said that it's an ethical question. One which can't be avoided. You have to choose one way or another. That's your choice, not anyone elses if you're capable. Whatever you justify you have to live with. I don't envy anyone that descision. To me, the reality is that you are terminating a life. To you, it's not. Apparently.
(July 24, 2013 at 6:30 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: To sacrifice for something that doesn't even know what "want" means, let alone to want to be born. The only reason to justify this is to say that it's "meant to be" born. And that is not something I subscribe to.If the baby is meant to be born, it will be. Your descision plays a part in that, if you make one. You're once more lumping me in with anti abortionists. Is there an invisible poster here??
(July 24, 2013 at 6:30 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: I'm not detached from my humanity enough to think that a mother who never prepared for this, should go through with this, spend the next 20 years........blah blah blah on your personal crusade against anti abortionists. Very nice. Now can you please address what I'm saying?
(July 24, 2013 at 6:30 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Potential doesn't triumph real, it doesn't triumph much if it requires so much sacrifice.No one said that it did. {Potential} Life also doesn't deserve ignoring. To make a descision that you can live with, you need to address the problem squarely.
(July 24, 2013 at 6:30 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: And frozen embryos. What's the issue here, truly? These embryos can go through IVF to give a couple a baby. Or they can be used for stem cells research and save lives. How do I disregard people's happiness and wellbeing in favour of embryos? I don't understand, it's very clear cut what is more important.I don't know. What is the issue here?
(July 24, 2013 at 6:30 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Why do I not value potential human lives? because they're potential. If the world population was dying out I'd value them very much. But we're talking about sacrificing ourselves for these potentials that will never be babies. Those frozen ones, they certainly will never all get to be a baby. Why are you so sure that they'd dislike that?You seem to be claiming that although you accept this as human life, you can give it no importance because a. it isn't sentient, and now b. the world isn't short of humans.
I have never mentioned anyone -having- to sacrifice. All I said was that this is an ethical choice: because this is a life. We can't ignore that fact. It's not like choosing between tea or coffee. There's something very important in the mix to us here: human life.
Women can know the choice they make and still have to make it. The choice is difficult -because- they realise what it is. Try telling a potential mother that a unique personality that she's started creating isn't important to her. That she should think of it as nothing more than any other unborn human.