(July 27, 2013 at 4:21 am)Esquilax Wrote:(July 26, 2013 at 10:31 am)enrico Wrote: You are the one who say that whales are driven solely by instinct.
I instead said that whales are driven by instinct.
That does not mean that a bit of consciousness is there and got to be there if evolution is possible as in case of human evolution of the past.
You see, you are not reading my previous posts and then you come up with your own judgments.
In my previous post i also made clear that animals have a limited consciousness as you can see below.
But my point wasn't what you said, but why you felt qualified to say it at all: the bane of intelligent discourse is bald assertions like yours. I get what you're saying, what I'm asking is what evidence- if any- have you used to come to that conclusion. The question is why you believe this, and you keep coming back by reiterating what you believe. This is not helpful.
I thought it was clear enough why i believe this and what evidence there is since i mention in several occasion how the tantric meditation can open up the hidden consciousness.
Can a whale do meditation?
So the only other way to develop more consciousness will be to take a human body once she can exit the animal constriction and bondage.
In the meantime she will have to wait and live under the constriction of instinct and her limited free will.
Now don't take me wrong and assume that the only way to get more consciousness is to practice tantric yoga.
As the saying.........ALL THE ROAD LEAD TO ROME.
You can develop more consciousness by leading a good life and learn day by day but this procedure take long long time and require many reincarnation.
That is why yoga was given in order to accelerate the process and reduce the torture of a life stuck in a body.