(August 5, 2013 at 1:28 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Botanists understand how exactly these plants can move, and, the fun part is, there is no consciousness necessary. Next please.
Botanist study physical science not intuitional science so it will be quite difficult to know what is outside their competency.
Oh, by the way if you know for sure all about consciousness can you tell me at what stage in the evolution it is manifested.
If as you say is not in manifested in plants where is it?
In some animals? In the human beings? Nowhere?
Quote:Who are you and what does your Pope-making authority entail? Are you Zombie Christ?
Quote:Do you have to make a conscious effort to breathe, or does your body do it for you automatically? The reason so many people drown is because an automatic reflex of the body is to draw in huge gulps of air when the flow of oxygen is cut off from the lungs. Our stupid human bodies are what kill us in these situations, and this is all done without having to make a single conscious thought.
So...when a worm begins to squirm because their nervous system goes into shock, are they consciously trying to avoid being squished, or are automatic reflexes kicking in? Perhaps you should read up on that before you make your fallacious analogies.
Analogies?
You are comparing the more advanced consciousness of a human being with a primitive consciousness of a worm?
Anyway you stated that..........their nervous system goes into shock..........how do you know that is the nervous system that goes into shock and not the consciousness?
Does the car goes into shock when there is an accident or the driver goes into shock?
You just said that the nervous system goes into shock when in reality is the worm going into shock.
What a disaster!!!
It would help if you could read some of Darwin intuition.
Is not that i fully agree with him but in something i do agree.
http://colinallen.dnsalias.org/Secure/TC...-final.pdf
enricky Wrote:Nobody choose to go through the trouble of creation and evolution.
Everybody consciousness would like to be home where they belong.
Quote:Poe. I don't remember who said it first, but I'm calling it again
If somebody said that first i will fully agree with him.