(August 10, 2013 at 8:43 am)Theo Zacharias Wrote:Do you have reason that god exists? That's the one I'm interested in, not why it's inconvenient for you to call yourself atheist.(August 10, 2013 at 8:39 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: @theo Zacharias,
Is this the reason why you think it's valid to believe in god?
This isn't reason that god exists or to think that god exists. This is reason to identify as a theist. And it's unfounded, what you're basically saying is if you call yourself and atheist, bad things will happen, so you'll call yourself a theist.
Yes, I agree that this is not the reason/evidence that God exists (I never said otherwise).
Quote:I also agree that this is a reason to become a theist. Unfounded? Why? No argument from you above.What? You think that if I don't believe in god, I should call myself a theist anyway?
Unfounded because this forum is full of atheists whose lives are no worse or better than theists (more or less).
Quote:Are you saying that I should be an atheist even though there is no evidence that God does not exist and even though I know most likely bad things will happen to me if I become an atheist?I'm not interested in what you should call yourself or what you should be.
I fail to see why this is irrational. For me, the opposite is the one that is irrational.
It's abundantly clear you do not see why it's irrational to believe in god even though there is no reason to. I'm just interested in why you think why a lack of belief in god when there is no reason to believe in one is irrational.[/quote]