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Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
(August 10, 2013 at 3:24 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Just going to say that while atheism is not predicated on morals, atheists are not amoral. With this in mind, how do you justify saying atheism is amoral?
And also @Captain Colostomy:

I agree that atheists are not amoral as I said multiple times.. I also do believe that atheists ARE moral, so nobody's insulting you. And yet atheism itself is an ideology that is amoral, yet begs that morals are essential. It states these morals are relative to the society, but every society that embraces these relative morals without a God concept devolves towards the stone age. That, to me, is evidence of its failure. It contradicts itself on its most fundamental levels, and yet time and time again when I let atheists know my reasons for not following it they get angry and bash me for attacking them, using unscientific and illogical arguments, condemning them to hell, and a myriad of other things I am not arguing.

Everything I'm saying right now was covered in my last post, so it seems to me you both replied without understanding my last post. Please make sure you understanf what I was saying.

(August 10, 2013 at 4:10 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Atheists are held accountable by existing systems in society, just like theists. The only difference is we come together and decide what we will enforce while theists look into a book.

Whether or not a god exists does not affect whether or not an act is moral. That's why atheism (lack of belief in god) has no comment on morality, it's like fashion design has no comment on what constitutes a good novel. It doesn't mean fashion designers don't have favourite books, it just happens to be 2 different field.

It's religion that's obsessed with having moral authority where it should have none, maybe that's why you linked atheism to morality like it's even the same subject.

Atheism is an anti-position. An anti-position is not necessarily incoherent, as long as the implications aren't pressed.. But you are pressing the implications toward their conclusion. With a belief that stands outside of the moral sphere, then makes them necessary for a society to thrive, the society that follows it always crumples on itself. History proves this is consistent. You ask for evidence, there it is.
It's evidence for me not to follow atheism, which was the only point of my post anyways, as far as you're concerned.
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RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong? - by Locke - August 10, 2013 at 5:13 pm

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