(August 18, 2013 at 7:11 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:(August 18, 2013 at 7:02 pm)discipulus Wrote: Ultimately, you are neither better or worse of than they.
Yes, I am better than the bigot. I am also better than the murderer whom you support in his desire to kill.
I know precisely what point you are attempting to make, veiling it beneath the poor disguise of madly conceived notion of atheistic morality, and of course you would be as erroneous in your falsities as others who have come before you.
Well of course you think you are better than the bigot. That is your opinion. Nor have I ever argued that you are not better than the bigot. I cannot argue that because "better" is a completely relative term.
What I have stated is that ultimately you and the bigot die and therefore are no better or worse off than the bigot. Death here, for the two of you is the great equalizer. Not only that, but your birth which was due to natural processes acting upon matter with no superintendence make you and the bigot fundamentally the same. You and he differ not unlike you differ from the man who loves Pringles chips while your prefer Frito Lay chips. You differ in your preferences and have different opinions. To that existent you are different, otherwise, you and he are homo sapiens who live to find your own meaning and purpose in this short duration you exist.
There are sundry opinions regarding what atheistic morality is. Some are objectivists like Harris, some are relativists.
Ultimately not even this matters because they are simply living according to their preferences. Neither one is ultimately better or worse off than the other.