RE: Attn: Theists - What would it take to prove you wrong?
August 27, 2013 at 6:06 am
(This post was last modified: August 27, 2013 at 6:21 am by Darwinian.)
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You seem to have a hang-up about cause and effect. Because, in your view, everything in our large scale universe must have a cause you think that this principle can be applied to the universe itself.
First of all, even if your premise is correct and there must have been a cause in order for this universe to come into existence, why does it follow that this cause was in any way intelligent, let alone a specific character from a specific religion. It's just as likely that this universe is a result from a physics experiment in an alien universe or came into being due to the collision of two colliding branes in hyperspace, or etc. etc.
Also, your premise that all things must have a cause is dodgy at best. In the wonderful world of quantum mechanics particles are popping into existence from seemingly nowhere and then annihilating themselves all the time, this is the whole premise behind evaporating black holes and Hawking radiation etc. Although I stand to be corrected.
Remember that when the universe was very small, prior to inflation, it operated under the quantum laws where the familiar laws of time & space, cause & effect, dimensions etc. all break down. Under the laws governing the very small it is just as likely for effect to precede cause and for the future to influence the past.
You simply cannot take your everyday experiences of reality and then blanketly apply them to everything. To paraphrase Carl Sagan, "The Cosmos does not have to conform to your expectations of it."
So, to say that everything must have a cause, therefore God, and to stubbornly adhere to this view in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary seems utterly bizarre!
You seem to have a hang-up about cause and effect. Because, in your view, everything in our large scale universe must have a cause you think that this principle can be applied to the universe itself.
First of all, even if your premise is correct and there must have been a cause in order for this universe to come into existence, why does it follow that this cause was in any way intelligent, let alone a specific character from a specific religion. It's just as likely that this universe is a result from a physics experiment in an alien universe or came into being due to the collision of two colliding branes in hyperspace, or etc. etc.
Also, your premise that all things must have a cause is dodgy at best. In the wonderful world of quantum mechanics particles are popping into existence from seemingly nowhere and then annihilating themselves all the time, this is the whole premise behind evaporating black holes and Hawking radiation etc. Although I stand to be corrected.
Remember that when the universe was very small, prior to inflation, it operated under the quantum laws where the familiar laws of time & space, cause & effect, dimensions etc. all break down. Under the laws governing the very small it is just as likely for effect to precede cause and for the future to influence the past.
You simply cannot take your everyday experiences of reality and then blanketly apply them to everything. To paraphrase Carl Sagan, "The Cosmos does not have to conform to your expectations of it."
So, to say that everything must have a cause, therefore God, and to stubbornly adhere to this view in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary seems utterly bizarre!