(September 30, 2013 at 6:05 pm)pocaracas Wrote:(September 30, 2013 at 5:05 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: The two claims that need to meet the burden the most are:Had they met their burden, we wouldn't be here.
-Theists haven't met their burden of proof.
That doesn't seem true. It assumes without evidence that meeting the burden of proof instantly converts atheists to theists.
Instead, it could very well be that the burden of proof expected of them is inappropriate. Or abnormally high.
Or atheists could just move the goalposts further, arbitrarily increasing the burden.
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Quote:(September 30, 2013 at 5:05 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: -A theism as a position is more rational because the theists haven't met their burden of proof.
How about this? Any position that has nothing to support it is less rational than the opposite position.
You still haven't proven that theism has nothing to support it. That's a pretty bold claim. I imagine the burden of proving it will be pretty high.
Quote:(September 30, 2013 at 5:05 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: I'll save you the time and point out that I don't think you can meet the burden of proof for these claims.
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Oops indeed.
When you stop and think about it, your allegations are unsupported. Heck, the whole burden of proof game is unsupported. The most sensible position is assess each position on it's own merits.