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Gun control
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RE: Gun control
(October 3, 2013 at 10:06 am)Zazzy Wrote:
(October 3, 2013 at 9:42 am)Chas Wrote: Many of the proposals are not rational or are disingenuous.
Could you elaborate on this for me, Chas? Research is difficult because of all the shrieking on both sides.

My quick answer is "Assault Weapon Ban". A bunch of firearms were classified with this invented scare term based mostly on appearance.

Many firearms that were much more deadly were not on the banned list, but they didn't have some non-functional feature that made them 'evil'.

The reaction from gun owners is that there is either gross ignorance or a hidden agenda in these laws.

H.R.3355 Wrote:(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the firearms in any caliber, known as--

`(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);

`(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;

`(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);

`(iv) Colt AR-15;

`(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;

`(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;

`(vii) Steyr AUG;

`(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and

`(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;

`(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--

`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;

`(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

`(iii) a bayonet mount;

`(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and

`(v) a grenade launcher;

`© a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--

`(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

`(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;

`(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;

`(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and

`(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; and

`(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--

`(i) a folding or telescoping stock;

`(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

`(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and

`(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.'.
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Messages In This Thread
Gun control - by Zazzy - September 29, 2013 at 8:22 pm
RE: Gun control - by Foxaèr - September 29, 2013 at 8:26 pm
RE: Gun control - by Captain Colostomy - September 29, 2013 at 8:26 pm
RE: Gun control - by Minimalist - September 29, 2013 at 8:31 pm
RE: Gun control - by Zazzy - September 29, 2013 at 8:39 pm
RE: Gun control - by pineapplebunnybounce - September 29, 2013 at 9:02 pm
RE: Gun control - by EB-S.canaria - September 29, 2013 at 8:41 pm
RE: Gun control - by Minimalist - September 29, 2013 at 9:03 pm
RE: Gun control - by Zazzy - September 29, 2013 at 10:28 pm
RE: Gun control - by Captain Colostomy - September 29, 2013 at 10:42 pm
RE: Gun control - by NoraBrimstone - September 30, 2013 at 8:33 am
RE: Gun control - by Tartarus Sauce - September 30, 2013 at 8:38 am
RE: Gun control - by LastPoet - September 30, 2013 at 8:48 am
RE: Gun control - by Doubting Thomas - September 30, 2013 at 6:12 pm
RE: Gun control - by kılıç_mehmet - September 30, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: Gun control - by NoraBrimstone - September 30, 2013 at 9:38 am
RE: Gun control - by kılıç_mehmet - September 30, 2013 at 9:42 am
RE: Gun control - by Psykhronic - September 30, 2013 at 9:44 am
RE: Gun control - by kılıç_mehmet - September 30, 2013 at 9:47 am
RE: Gun control - by NoraBrimstone - September 30, 2013 at 10:02 am
RE: Gun control - by kılıç_mehmet - September 30, 2013 at 11:41 am
RE: Gun control - by Psykhronic - September 30, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: Gun control - by zebo-the-fat - September 30, 2013 at 11:41 am
RE: Gun control - by kılıç_mehmet - September 30, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: Gun control - by Psykhronic - September 30, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: Gun control - by freedomfromforum - September 30, 2013 at 2:26 pm
RE: Gun control - by MindForgedManacle - September 30, 2013 at 2:49 pm
RE: Gun control - by freedomfromforum - September 30, 2013 at 3:16 pm
RE: Gun control - by zebo-the-fat - September 30, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: Gun control - by freedomfromforum - September 30, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: Gun control - by Doubting Thomas - September 30, 2013 at 3:48 pm
RE: Gun control - by zebo-the-fat - September 30, 2013 at 4:20 pm
RE: Gun control - by frankiej - September 30, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: Gun control - by freedomfromforum - September 30, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: Gun control - by zebo-the-fat - September 30, 2013 at 4:47 pm
RE: Gun control - by freedomfromforum - September 30, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: Gun control - by frankiej - September 30, 2013 at 4:49 pm
RE: Gun control - by Rahul - September 30, 2013 at 7:28 pm
RE: Gun control - by Minimalist - September 30, 2013 at 7:40 pm
RE: Gun control - by Zazzy - September 30, 2013 at 8:06 pm
RE: Gun control - by freedomfromforum - September 30, 2013 at 9:44 pm
RE: Gun control - by Zazzy - September 30, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Gun control - by Doubting Thomas - October 1, 2013 at 10:12 am
RE: Gun control - by Zazzy - October 1, 2013 at 10:31 am
RE: Gun control - by Doubting Thomas - October 1, 2013 at 12:04 pm
RE: Gun control - by Minimalist - September 30, 2013 at 10:28 pm
RE: Gun control - by Raeven - October 1, 2013 at 12:30 am
RE: Gun control - by Zazzy - October 1, 2013 at 1:16 pm
RE: Gun control - by Raeven - October 1, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: Gun control - by Zazzy - October 1, 2013 at 8:52 pm
RE: Gun control - by Raeven - October 1, 2013 at 10:15 pm
RE: Gun control - by Doubting Thomas - October 2, 2013 at 10:46 am
RE: Gun control - by Zazzy - October 2, 2013 at 8:54 pm
RE: Gun control - by Minimalist - October 1, 2013 at 1:09 am
RE: Gun control - by Chas - October 2, 2013 at 2:25 pm
RE: Gun control - by Raeven - October 1, 2013 at 1:12 am
RE: Gun control - by wwjs - October 1, 2013 at 4:11 am
RE: Gun control - by Minimalist - October 1, 2013 at 10:59 am
RE: Gun control - by wwjs - October 1, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Gun control - by Doubting Thomas - October 1, 2013 at 12:37 pm
RE: Gun control - by kılıç_mehmet - October 1, 2013 at 1:51 pm
RE: Gun control - by Rahul - October 2, 2013 at 10:54 pm
RE: Gun control - by Doubting Thomas - October 1, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: Gun control - by Doubting Thomas - October 2, 2013 at 11:26 pm
RE: Gun control - by Rahul - October 3, 2013 at 7:36 am
RE: Gun control - by Chas - October 3, 2013 at 9:42 am
RE: Gun control - by Zazzy - October 3, 2013 at 10:06 am
RE: Gun control - by Chas - October 3, 2013 at 11:29 am
RE: Gun control - by TheBeardedDude - October 3, 2013 at 11:32 am
RE: Gun control - by Zazzy - October 3, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: Gun control - by Chas - October 3, 2013 at 4:20 pm
RE: Gun control - by Zazzy - October 3, 2013 at 8:23 pm
RE: Gun control - by Chas - October 10, 2013 at 11:13 am
RE: Gun control - by Doubting Thomas - October 10, 2013 at 1:08 pm
RE: Gun control - by Chas - October 10, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: Gun control - by Raeven - October 10, 2013 at 12:16 pm
RE: Gun control - by downbeatplumb - October 10, 2013 at 1:39 pm
RE: Gun control - by Raeven - October 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm
RE: Gun control - by Minimalist - October 21, 2013 at 1:38 am

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