(October 4, 2013 at 4:35 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: I don't understand how you can get the first part right.
And the second part oh so wrong.
I disbelieve any gods exists. That position would, according to the vast majority of people, define me as an atheist. It doesn't really matter to me what you want to label that position.
Quote:It's like you're calling yourself an atheist theist. As far as common sense is concerned, atheism and agnosticism are mutually exclusive positions.
It's nothing like calling myself an atheist theist. It is impossible to to believe and disbelieve the same proposition simultaneously. Therefore, those are mutually exclusive by definition.
But since agnosticism is not a BELIEF position, it is a position that concerns KNOWLEDGE, they are not mutually exclusive.
I'm seriously getting the impression you don't understand the difference between the meaning of the 2 words 'belief' and 'knowledge'.
Quote:You not being a theist in practice, or believing in a particular God simply makes you irreligious.
I do not believe any of the gods, that have ever been defined, exist.
Go ahead and define a god, provide me with demonstrable, verifiable, repeatable, falsifiable evidence and reasoned argument that you believe support its existence, and I will evaluate it. If it meets the burden of proof, I will accept it.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
