(October 14, 2013 at 9:12 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: You had an aesthetic experience. Those experiences are not invalidated by the fact that they can be (are ARE ) subjected to scientific examination. If you did not have a functioning brain, and sensory system, it would not have been possible.My brain is a natural entity, but it certainly isn't due to my scientific exploration of it. As I said to creed, if you are going to rig the game by claiming that anything relating to any knowledge in any way at all is part of scientific exploration, then of course you win the argument. I just think that's some pretty tortured defining of how humans experience scientific exploration.
Minds and emotions are not science. They can be explored by scientific means. If someone randomly punches me in the face and I learn how much that hurts, I don't think that because I have a face with nerve endings that fire pain messages in my brain, that you can claim I have had an experience of scientific exploration. Or maybe you can. We'll see.