How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?

[Esquilax]

You're spinning. The comparison is valid. If finite crimes aren't comparable to eternal punishment, then neither is finite suffering comparable to eternal happiness. Speaking of desperate needs, you're really showing such with this argument.

Except that the comparison isn't a matter of content, but one of motivation; there simply isn't one, could not be an acceptable one, for the suffering of babies, and therefore it serves no purpose but to detract from the moral credibility of the god that would allow it, regardless of whatever reward comes later. Just restating the initial flawed premise doesn't suddenly mean I need to back off, John.

What we're saying is, it's a baffling cruelty to inflict this fate on a child, irrespective of what happens after. If I kill a child and then save a busload of children from dying, am I absolved of the murder?

Suffering can serve a purpose and accomplish good in those touched by it. It affects more than the baby you know.

And if you can't see why that logic is some of the most intensely immoral possible, then you are a monster, and beyond hope.

Incorrect. I didn't shrug. The question just hadn't come up yet, and the answer is so obvious I'm amazed it did come up. Again, suffering in one person affects other people, too.

And you find it moral that an undeserving, innocent person be forced to suffer terribly, so that their suffering can be transferred to others? That's... that's okay to you? Your mitigating circumstance, of this tragic fact of life, is that the parents will feel bad too?

Oh yes, the people advocating life and hope are callous. The people saying to just abort it and move on are the caring ones.

I don't believe I mentioned abortion at all, John.