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Calling Out Demolition Deniers
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers
(October 23, 2013 at 7:15 am)Aractus Wrote: Ok mate, but again, the evidence for a government conspiracy simply isn't there.

Not necessarily evidence, but I have presented many things that at least strongly support that 9/11 was a governmental conspiracy when taken altogether.

Have you seen any of the links that I posted? If not, then please do.

(October 23, 2013 at 7:15 am)Aractus Wrote: There are not unexplained coincidences, etc, and there isn't any evidence for explosives being planted in the towers prior to the planes hitting them. If there were, then their presence would have been found in the wreckage. So there's no physical evidence for explosives being planted in the towers.

1. Seismic wave evidence
2. Forensic evidence
3. Metallurgical examination

And number 3 brings me to the following point, which is, in order to properly investigate whether or not there is physical evidence of explosives planted inside the towers, one of the most important thing to preserve and examine are the steel pieces of the buildings. The steels were the important for searching for physical evidence of explosives.

Yet that is the thing that authorities got rid of. Soon after the collapse, almost all the steel pieces from the rubble were hauled away and recycled as quickly as possible. They were carted away and melted down before the FEMA investigators got there to inspect them, so then how do you expect to find physical evidence of explosives in the wreckage?

Quote:Steel was the structural material of the buildings. As such it was the most important evidence to preserve in order to puzzle out how the structures held up to the impacts and fires, but then disintegrated into rubble. Since the collapse of steel-framed skyscrapers due to fires is completely unprecedented, the steel should have been subjected to detailed analysis. So what did the authorities do with this key evidence of the vast crime and unprecedented engineering failure? They recycled it!
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/groundzero/cleanup.html

Only a small number of steel pieces were saved for future examination.

Quote:So that we can learn from the tragedy of September 11 (the pathetically small number of) 146 pieces of steel, were saved for future study. Of course, those responsible for September 11, want us to learn nothing.
http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guar...apndxD.htm

Even from those small number of steel pieces available for inspection, scientists were still able to perform a "limited metallurgical examination" and then they found that the corrosion of the steel pieces was so extreme that they called it "a very unusual event" because it was never heard before that just fire alone can cause such an incredible damage to steel. Although that is not a direct evidence for the existence of explosives in the buildings, it does significantly support the theory of controlled demolition of the towers.

Quote:The severe corrosion and subsequent erosion of Samples 1 and 2 are a very unusual event. No clear explanation for the source of the sulfur has been identified. The rate of corrosion is also unknown.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence...apndxC.htm


(October 23, 2013 at 7:15 am)Aractus Wrote: Furthermore, what you probably don't realise, and what most people don't realise about 7WTC is that the south side of the building gives way and collapses a full 10 seconds before the north side does. The collapse of the south side of the building is what causes catastrophic damage to the lower floors of the north side and triggers the full collapse.

Yes, the south side of the building was burning for quite a while, but even considering that, it still doesn't make sense to me how normal office fire can pull down an entire building like that just like how a freefalling brick plunges toward the ground. Something like this has never happened before in history. And I think the fires were on the 18th floor, so it wasn't happening in the lowest floor but yet the whole building came down in less than 7 seconds? That's incredible.





Even NIST admitted free fall in its final report on the World Trade Center disaster:

Quote:NIST Admits Free Fall: Amazingly, NIST did acknowledge free fall in its final report. It tried to disguise it, but the admission is there on page 607. Dividing the building’s descent into three stages, it describes the second phase as "a freefall descent over approximately eight stories at gravitational acceleration for approximately 2.25 s[econds]." "Gravitational acceleration” is a synonym for free fall acceleration.

So, after presenting 606 pages of descriptions, testimonies, photographs, graphs, analyses, explanations, and mathematical formulae, NIST on page 607 says, in effect: "Then a miracle happens."

Why this would be a miracle was explained by Chandler, who said: "Free fall can only be achieved if there is zero resistance to the motion."

The implication of Chandler’s remark is that, by the principles of physics, the upper portion of Building 7 could have come down in free fall only if something had removed all the steel and concrete in the lower part of the building, which would have otherwise provided resistance, and only explosives of some sort could have removed them.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-mysteri...-wtc-seven


And once again, almost all of Building 7's steels were hauled away and melted down before anyone was able to inspect them:

Quote:Building 7's rubble pile was at least as important as any archeological dig. It contained all the clues to one of the largest structural failures in history. Without understanding the cause of the collapse, all skyscrapers become suspect, with profound implications for the safety of occupants and for the ethics of sending emergency personnel into burning buildings to save people and fight fires.

There was no legitimate reason not to dismantle the rubble pile carefully, documenting the position of each piece of steel and moving it to a warehouse for further study. No one was thought buried in the pile, since, unlike the Twin Towers, Building 7 had been evacuated hours before the collapse. The pile was so well confined to the building's footprint that the adjacent streets could have been cleared without disturbing it.

Yet, despite the paramount importance of the remains, they were hauled away and melted down as quickly as possible. The steel was sold to scrap metal vendors and most of it was soon on ships bound for China and India. Some of the smaller pieces and a few token large pieces of steel marked 'save' were allowed to be inspected at Fresh Kills landfill by FEMA's BPAT volunteers.

http://www.wtc7.net/steeldisposal.html

(October 23, 2013 at 7:15 am)Aractus Wrote: It is pretty much fully understood how and why the building collapsed, despite not being directly hit by a passenger jet.

Really? Please enlighten me then ...

(October 23, 2013 at 7:15 am)Aractus Wrote: I don't know anything about this Susan Lindauer, but all she seems to be talking about is intelligence being kept from the public, not a conspiracy.

She does say that it's a conspiracy. Watch the video that I posted in this post.

http://extremeprejudiceusa.wordpress.com...an-4-2011/
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/30/...cia-asset/
http://www.wanttoknow.info/911/9-11_whis...n_lindauer

^ Now you can learn more about her and what she said about 9/11.
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Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 17, 2013 at 8:15 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 17, 2013 at 8:16 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 18, 2013 at 5:30 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Minimalist - October 17, 2013 at 8:47 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Autumnlicious - October 17, 2013 at 9:50 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by professor - October 17, 2013 at 9:53 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Faith No More - October 18, 2013 at 6:19 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Zazzy - October 17, 2013 at 10:00 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 18, 2013 at 5:43 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Creed of Heresy - October 17, 2013 at 10:24 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - October 17, 2013 at 10:33 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Creed of Heresy - October 17, 2013 at 10:44 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Doubting Thomas - October 18, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Autumnlicious - October 17, 2013 at 11:01 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Captain Colostomy - October 18, 2013 at 8:07 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by bladevalant546 - October 18, 2013 at 9:24 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Whateverist - October 18, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by LastPoet - October 18, 2013 at 10:13 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Minimalist - October 18, 2013 at 10:46 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Doubting Thomas - October 18, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by freedomfromforum - October 18, 2013 at 11:25 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Psykhronic - October 18, 2013 at 11:46 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by professor - October 18, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Mister Agenda - October 18, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by TheBeardedDude - October 18, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by downbeatplumb - October 18, 2013 at 1:47 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Minimalist - October 18, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by TheBeardedDude - October 18, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Esquilax - October 19, 2013 at 4:04 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by LastPoet - October 18, 2013 at 1:44 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by TheBeardedDude - October 18, 2013 at 1:50 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by downbeatplumb - October 18, 2013 at 1:52 pm
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RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Brian37 - October 18, 2013 at 3:15 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 18, 2013 at 3:55 pm
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RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Autumnlicious - October 18, 2013 at 5:02 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 18, 2013 at 9:23 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Whateverist - October 18, 2013 at 10:15 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Cato - October 19, 2013 at 12:51 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 19, 2013 at 8:09 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Brian37 - October 19, 2013 at 4:33 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 19, 2013 at 4:56 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Brian37 - October 19, 2013 at 8:11 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rahul - October 19, 2013 at 12:05 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Tiberius - October 19, 2013 at 2:16 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by professor - October 18, 2013 at 7:11 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Faith No More - October 18, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Autumnlicious - October 18, 2013 at 7:24 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Autumnlicious - October 19, 2013 at 12:50 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Dragonetti - October 19, 2013 at 1:16 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Minimalist - October 19, 2013 at 1:25 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by LastPoet - October 19, 2013 at 2:01 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 19, 2013 at 6:58 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Cato - October 19, 2013 at 1:31 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Creed of Heresy - October 19, 2013 at 3:26 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 19, 2013 at 7:12 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by downbeatplumb - October 19, 2013 at 8:32 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rahul - October 19, 2013 at 8:48 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 19, 2013 at 4:32 pm
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RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - October 19, 2013 at 6:43 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Autumnlicious - October 19, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by bladevalant546 - October 19, 2013 at 8:03 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 20, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 20, 2013 at 12:05 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - October 20, 2013 at 8:42 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Creed of Heresy - October 20, 2013 at 3:25 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Brian37 - October 20, 2013 at 6:33 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Angrboda - October 20, 2013 at 8:19 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by TheBeardedDude - October 20, 2013 at 9:05 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rahul - October 20, 2013 at 9:20 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Minimalist - October 21, 2013 at 1:07 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Tiberius - October 21, 2013 at 4:25 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by rexbeccarox - October 21, 2013 at 5:04 am
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RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 22, 2013 at 5:32 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Brian37 - October 22, 2013 at 7:58 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Aractus - October 22, 2013 at 4:29 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 22, 2013 at 5:23 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - October 22, 2013 at 9:18 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 22, 2013 at 5:24 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Aractus - October 23, 2013 at 7:15 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by LastPoet - October 23, 2013 at 7:42 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Aractus - October 23, 2013 at 8:44 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Doubting Thomas - October 23, 2013 at 9:31 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 22, 2013 at 5:28 am
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RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Creed of Heresy - October 24, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 27, 2013 at 4:34 am
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RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 22, 2013 at 5:30 am
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RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Faith No More - October 24, 2013 at 11:48 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Aractus - October 25, 2013 at 4:52 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - October 25, 2013 at 10:37 am
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RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 26, 2013 at 10:35 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 26, 2013 at 10:38 pm
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - October 27, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Rayaan - October 29, 2013 at 1:21 am
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RE: Calling Out Demolition Deniers - by Chas - November 4, 2013 at 10:51 am
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