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Christianity vs Atheism
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism
(October 29, 2013 at 11:48 pm)Informative2016 Wrote:
(October 29, 2013 at 11:29 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: pretty much


First off thats called a appeal to authority, a logical fallacy. Second I have contradicted allot you have said.


You have not contradicted anything I have said, congratulations, the atheist is wrong again. Then again, that's not a surprise, I respect a TRUE atheist thinker, clearly you are an ignorant thinker who can't leave a high school mindset behind.

You said the bible has a powerful historical backing,
informative2016 Wrote:And the Bible is evidence that there is a God everything within the Bible has been proven to have some sort of backing, for example the Bible is historically accurate with its writings.

Here is some historical evidence the bible is untrue
Lemonvariable72 Wrote:Quote: This kind of evidence would be even more compelling if it were discovered by a christian. Well, this actually happened - take a look at Joshua 8:26-28:

For Joshua drew not his hand back, wherewith he stretched out the spear, until he had utterly destroyed all the inhabitants of Ai. Only the cattle and the spoil of that city Israel took for a prey unto themselves, according unto the word of the LORD which he commanded Joshua. And Joshua burnt Ai, and made it an heap for ever, even a desolation unto this day.

Joseph Callaway, professor at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, excavated the ruins of Ai between 1964 and 1976 and afterwards reported that what he found there contradicted the Bible version completely:

The evidence from Ai was mainly negative. There was a great walled city there beginning about 3000 B. C., more than 1,800 years before Israel's emergence in Canaan. But this city was destroyed about 2400 B. C., after which the site was abandoned. Despite extensive excavation, no evidence of a Late Bronze Age (1500-1200 B. C.) Canaanite city was found. In short, there was no Canaanite city here for Joshua to conquer (Biblical Archaeology Review, "Joseph A. Callaway: 1920-1988," November/December 1988, p. 24, emphasis mine).

Here is the link
http://fuzzyquark.comxa.com/archaeology.html
And this after you claimed the god of the bible ( I can quote the post if you want)
Cannot be disproven
Lemonvariable72 Wrote:1. Since atheism is simply a rejection of religious claims, it has no burden of proof and if christians had proof they would not have to use logical fallacies such as shifting the burden of proof to make a argument.
2. The bible makes easily falsified claims, for example genesis 1:11 tells us that the vegetation of the earth was created before the sun. Now a earth without a sun would be something like -180 celsuis and permanently dark. Here I purpose a little experiment, take your mother's petunia or any potted plant and find a large deep freeze and put it in there, and then observe the results. There more disprovable claims then that too E.G plants after noahs flood.
3. Balant contradictions in the bible. For example in 1 john 4:12 No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.
But in exodus 33:11
The LORD would speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young aide Joshua son of Nun did not leave the tent.
And in Genesis 32:22-32 22
That night Jacob got up and took his two wives, his two female servants and his eleven sons and crossed the ford of the Jabbok. 23 After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions. 24 So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak. 25 When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man. 26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”
But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”
27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”
“Jacob,” he answered.
28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,[a] because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”
29 Jacob said, “Please tell me your name.”
But he replied, “Why do you ask my name?” Then he blessed him there.
30 So Jacob called the place Peniel,[b] saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”
31 The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel,[c] and he was limping because of his hip. 32 Therefore to this day the Israelites do not eat the tendon attached to the socket of the hip, because the socket of Jacob’s hip was touched near the tendon.
4. Balant design flaws in human anatomy E.G A jaw that is too small to fit all the teeth, the appendix, and the fact that we use one tube for eating and breathing. These are easily avoided design flaws that would have any engineer fired. If adam did have these flaws corrected before the fall then adam would have been a different species from us, probably even a different genus.
5. The positioning of the earth in a inner solar filled with asteriods that could easily wipe out life on earth, agian a glaring over that now sapient designer would make.

So you asked for evidence, there it is.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 2:39 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Cinjin - October 29, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by JesusHChrist - October 29, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 3:09 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Cinjin - October 29, 2013 at 3:12 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by freedomfromforum - October 29, 2013 at 3:16 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Cinjin - October 29, 2013 at 3:18 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by JesusHChrist - October 29, 2013 at 3:17 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 10:56 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by The Valkyrie - November 9, 2013 at 3:45 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Ayen - November 9, 2013 at 4:05 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Mister Agenda - October 30, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 9, 2013 at 2:26 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Captain Colostomy - November 9, 2013 at 2:40 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 9, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by freedomfromforum - November 9, 2013 at 2:49 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by JesusHChrist - October 29, 2013 at 2:45 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Cinjin - October 29, 2013 at 2:56 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 10:31 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 29, 2013 at 10:36 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Neo-Scholastic - October 29, 2013 at 11:22 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 29, 2013 at 11:27 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Doubting Thomas - October 30, 2013 at 12:12 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Mister Agenda - October 30, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by freedomfromforum - October 30, 2013 at 11:22 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by JesusHChrist - October 29, 2013 at 2:56 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 3:19 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by JesusHChrist - October 29, 2013 at 3:23 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Esquilax - October 29, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 11:17 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 29, 2013 at 11:25 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Esquilax - October 30, 2013 at 12:03 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Zazzy - October 30, 2013 at 8:59 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Esquilax - October 30, 2013 at 9:21 am
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Cato - October 30, 2013 at 9:37 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Esquilax - October 30, 2013 at 9:39 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by freedomfromforum - October 29, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Cinjin - October 29, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 2:57 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Cinjin - October 29, 2013 at 3:01 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Jackalope - October 29, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Doubting Thomas - October 29, 2013 at 4:26 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 11:32 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by The Reality Salesman - October 30, 2013 at 10:29 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Cinjin - October 30, 2013 at 10:48 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Mister Agenda - October 30, 2013 at 12:36 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Doubting Thomas - October 30, 2013 at 12:39 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by freedomfromforum - October 29, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by bennyboy - October 30, 2013 at 11:00 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Cinjin - October 30, 2013 at 11:03 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by max-greece - October 30, 2013 at 11:09 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by bennyboy - October 30, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Cinjin - October 29, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - October 29, 2013 at 2:49 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 3:05 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Cinjin - October 29, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by freedomfromforum - October 29, 2013 at 3:11 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Lion IRC - October 29, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by freedomfromforum - October 29, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 11:41 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 29, 2013 at 11:44 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Mister Agenda - October 30, 2013 at 12:38 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - October 29, 2013 at 3:18 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - October 29, 2013 at 3:39 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 11:29 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Foxaèr - October 30, 2013 at 5:24 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by LostLocke - October 30, 2013 at 9:42 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Cato - October 30, 2013 at 9:47 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by LostLocke - October 30, 2013 at 9:57 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Mister Agenda - October 30, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Kayenneh - October 29, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - October 29, 2013 at 2:56 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Neo-Scholastic - October 29, 2013 at 2:57 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - October 29, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 10:37 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Mister Agenda - October 30, 2013 at 12:00 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Cinjin - October 29, 2013 at 3:04 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Mister Agenda - October 30, 2013 at 11:23 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by JesusHChrist - October 29, 2013 at 3:09 pm
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Cinjin - October 29, 2013 at 3:22 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Cinjin - October 29, 2013 at 3:21 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Zazzy - October 29, 2013 at 3:22 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Cinjin - October 29, 2013 at 3:31 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by MindForgedManacle - October 29, 2013 at 3:31 pm
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 11:27 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 29, 2013 at 11:28 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Captain Colostomy - October 29, 2013 at 3:44 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 29, 2013 at 3:59 pm
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 29, 2013 at 4:07 pm
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Darwinian - October 29, 2013 at 4:16 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by freedomfromforum - October 29, 2013 at 4:26 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 29, 2013 at 10:51 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 29, 2013 at 11:14 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - October 29, 2013 at 11:26 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Captain Colostomy - October 29, 2013 at 11:28 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 29, 2013 at 11:29 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 29, 2013 at 11:55 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Captain Colostomy - October 29, 2013 at 11:39 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Informative2016 - October 29, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Captain Colostomy - October 30, 2013 at 12:14 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Mister Agenda - October 30, 2013 at 12:45 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by LostLocke - October 30, 2013 at 12:49 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 30, 2013 at 2:28 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by I am God - November 26, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Captain Colostomy - October 29, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Minimalist - October 29, 2013 at 11:59 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - October 30, 2013 at 12:00 am
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 30, 2013 at 12:12 am
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 30, 2013 at 2:54 am
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by The Reality Salesman - October 30, 2013 at 12:05 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by JesusHChrist - October 30, 2013 at 12:06 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Doubting Thomas - October 30, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by pocaracas - October 30, 2013 at 12:38 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by freedomfromforum - October 30, 2013 at 12:43 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Captain Colostomy - October 30, 2013 at 12:37 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by LostLocke - October 30, 2013 at 12:39 pm
RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Bad Writer - October 30, 2013 at 12:55 pm
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Doubting Thomas - November 2, 2013 at 7:19 pm
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RE: Christianity vs Atheism - by Captain Colostomy - November 9, 2013 at 3:11 pm
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