(November 2, 2013 at 5:03 pm)GodsRevolt Wrote: So, if we are addressing the problem of evil (which assumes the existence of a God, otherwise how could He be so careless?) I can talk about God and Pain, but I cannot bring up heaven, which would be the philosophies presentation of the end of all pain, or what God said in regards to suffering and pain.
Next thread to start: Discussion of Moby Dick, but if anyone brings up Ishmael I declare them completely off topic!
Assumes existence of a god? I think evil pretty much makes the existence of a good god impossible, but your god bitchslaps people, so yes we can make allowances for the sake of argument.
But no you cannot bring up heaven because heaven is christianity's way of opting out of all responsibilities here on earth. God's and their own. Almost every religion has something like that, buddhism believes in karma that happens in this lifetime, and also those that happen in the next life, so they don't have to account for all the times they fail to karma people. So yes, it is a complete cop out by invoking something that you cannot proof and no one can ever proof and saying that because it exists it justifies suffering.
Oh, excuse me, you can bring it up if you want to, I'm just letting you know I'm not going to take that kind of argument seriously.
