The most important reason anyone is an atheist

[Optimistic Mysanthrope]

There are many spiritualist "cures" for ailments, none of which can be shown to have any effect beyond being a placebo.

No wonder that they are not working.
The reason is that they have little to do with spirituality.
I have seen people who look at crystal for hours hoping to sort out their problems.
I have seen religious people who say that they are engaged in spirituality not having a clue what spirituality is and so on.
The list is infinite and goes on for ever.
Spirituality is the effort to grasp the knowledge, the wisdom and the pleasure that lie within and that can only be achieved by working very hard and the best way is through intuitive science although there are different ways.

Fanstastic! We now have a "no true spiritualist" argument.

I do believe in medical science.
I wouldn't go to see my doctor time to time otherwise but that is not the point.
We are talking about solving problem for good not putting bags of sand there were the water spill to see the problem recur elsewhere.

Great, I'm still waiting on the evidence that backs up this claim.

You have seen that!
I have seen every single working day countless people chocking up the health system and i have seen countless of people out in the community unable to send their dear one in rehab. centers or nursing home because there is no vacant beds or because it cost a lot of money to get in.

I've already refuted that. Show me why I'm wrong or stop making the claim.

Do you have anything to show that there is, or at least could be, such a thing as you're suggesting (a sort of "disease equilibrium", for want of a better term)?

In the past obesity and diabetes were the diseases of the rich, today they are the disease of the middle class as well as the rich.
Dementia, Parkinson and Alzheimer diseases are totally out of control.
No cure so far.
These are just the spills that occur when you fix the problem elsewhere.

Right, that does absolutely nothing to back up your claim. All you have done is repeat the claim, I have already told you why I believe your claim to be without merit. Oh, and obesity is not a fucking disease.

So who is the delusional and who is the wise?

Well if you have to ask........