(December 2, 2013 at 4:02 pm)Nineteen Wrote:(December 2, 2013 at 3:42 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: There is hard, verifiable, quantifiable and testable evidence that indicates that evolution is an accurate description of the process that occurs that leads to species evolving.
For Islam, all we have the word of believers and a contradiction laden book written under dubious circumstances around 1500 years ago.
You deceive yourself.
There are also hard verifiable quantifiable and tastable against theories for "human" evolution .
Like what? Creationism? If that's your answer then you may as well stop right there.
(December 2, 2013 at 4:02 pm)Nineteen Wrote: For Islam , I have proved many times that there is no contradiction in it , also any person can do the same , just a little research .
Take your own advice. Do some research.
There is nothing scientific in the Quran, just retrospective reasoning and stealing the advancements of others and cramming it into verses that would reveal absolutely nothing unless someone else did the hard work for them.
(December 2, 2013 at 4:02 pm)Nineteen Wrote: People just want to believe what they want to believe , this applies to all . People cannot decide without being bound to a frame of mind and everyone is under the influence of their political and philosophical mindset .
I agree. But believing something doesn't make it true. And to be clear, I don't believe in evolution. I see it as a fact because it is a fact.
(December 2, 2013 at 4:02 pm)Nineteen Wrote: I'm trying to be objective as much as possible .
By the way , please research about some islamic scholar those who were propounded different evolutionary theories . Jabbir ibn Hayyan , Ibrahim an-Nazzam , Al-Jahiz , Al-Biruni , Ebn Meskavayh , Ibn Tufail , Ibn Khaldun etc ...
So muslims are not the against the evolution as you think . Christians are , because this is opposed to their Jesus portrait .
76:1 Was there not a time in the past when the human being was nothing to even be mentioned?
You are being the antithesis of objective. You are using your religious beliefs to justify your arguments and, further, to rubbish evidence based theories that contradict your reasoning. This is why we're not taking you seriously.
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