RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
December 8, 2013 at 5:37 pm
(This post was last modified: December 8, 2013 at 5:42 pm by Duck.)
(December 8, 2013 at 5:36 pm)Optimistic Mysanthrope Wrote: What if she got pregnant whilst using contraception? Is the "permission" still implicit?
Yes. Contraception is not perfect. You are responsible for the consequences of your actions. It isn't good enough to tell the police 'I was 99% sure that it wouldn't happen like this, it isn't my fault he is dead'.
(December 8, 2013 at 5:36 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote:(December 8, 2013 at 5:33 pm)Duck Wrote: There is one crucial point missing here. The fetus is not there through choice, but rather through the actions of the mother. So you could infer the permission to use her body for support, as she got pregnant. The mother gave her permission implicitly by committing the act that caused the pregnancy (this particular avenue would not apply to a rape case, however. But, the fetus should not be considered there as of choice)That makes no difference. A person who needs blood or an organ is rarely in that position by choice, either. If you cause a car accident and another person invoves needs your blood or one of your organs, they can't take anything without your consent. And please don't start the whole punishing women for having sex crap. We're allowed to have sex. It's none of your business.
Well hold the phone. I never said you couldn't have sex, but you do need to understand that there can be consequences. And you are responsible for these. The car crash analogy is not the same. The fetus is dependent on you for survival, you created it and you put it there. The law will punish you for hurting someone with a car, but it will not take parts of your body (in the USA it could take your life, however).
I am not punishing women for having sex. I am just pointing out that they are responsible for their actions. Having sex has the possible consequence of getting pregnant. If you are not willing to take the risk, don't do it.
One more point - you are killing the fetus. You are just not helping the crash victim.