RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
December 9, 2013 at 1:38 pm
(This post was last modified: December 9, 2013 at 1:39 pm by Mystical.)
(December 8, 2013 at 6:03 pm)Duck Wrote:I would argue that the point in which a foetus has formed nerves that allow it to feel pain, is the moment in which it becomes self aware and therefore a human being.(December 8, 2013 at 5:57 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: A foetus has no rights. It doesn't gain any rights at all unless it grows into a baby and is born. Until then it is part of the host's body, which she has all rights too. I don't have sex for reproduction. I have sex for pleasure. I don't want to ruin my life with a smelly, noisy, shitty little demanding creature, so if something goes wrong and I do get pregnant, it's not welcome to stay and will be out by the end of the week. Simplez.
Even once the fetus can survive on its own without your body to support it? Once this point is reached at the fetus is viable, can survive without you, do you retain the right to kill it because it happens to be inside you?
(December 8, 2013 at 6:00 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: I'm totally in agreement with Nora, women can have sex and its no ones business.
When it becomes my business is when a woman gets pregnant and wants my tax money to pay for her doctors appointments, labs, the birth of the baby, and welfare support to raise that kid. Thats no ones responsibility but hers. Not to mention college if they even get that far. Kids are an inevitable result of sex. Sex was literally designed for procreation.
Have sex all you want. Just don't make me pay for it.
Thats how I feel but that's nit reality. People are going to have sex. Sex is a very important essence of society and humanity, and so are children--whether they were wanted or not. We as a society are responsible for eachother, to eachother. Standing on two opposite cliffs isn't going to bring you any closer to building a bridge, you have to start building it one piece at a time from your side to the other and meet in the middle.
Nora says her pregnancy would be gone within a week. I'm perfectly fine with abortions up to 8wks (pain synapses form at 8-10 wks based on my sisters college medical textbook).
Sorry for the late reply, you guys post a lot very fast
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.