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Poll: Who governs the whole order of things on earth?
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Man
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God
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If there is no God, then, one may ask
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RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask
(December 11, 2013 at 8:40 am)DOS Wrote: Why you always justify yourself before me? Either you have control over your lives or not! The answer is yes or no.
But that isn't what you asked. You asked "if there is no God, then, one may ask, who governs human life and, in general, the whole order of things on earth?" And you created a poll with the choice of man or god. Since your question presumes there is no god, the choices presented are strange.

In post #61, you change the question to "If there is no God, then, who governs your life and, in general, the whole order of things in your life?" This is a very different question from the original. My belief is that neither man nor god "governs the whole order of things on Earth." I do, however govern my life and the order of things in my life, though I suspect that this will degenerate into an argument over how to define "govern the order of things" before we are done.

Now I am curious of two things. One, how do you answer either of those questions? Two, what is the point of the questions you asked?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 2:22 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Angrboda - December 10, 2013 at 2:35 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Minimalist - December 10, 2013 at 2:38 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by max-greece - December 10, 2013 at 2:38 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 10, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 5:51 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Angrboda - December 10, 2013 at 3:45 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Neo-Scholastic - December 11, 2013 at 7:52 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 10, 2013 at 3:30 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Kayenneh - December 10, 2013 at 5:53 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 10, 2013 at 5:59 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 10, 2013 at 6:42 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 8:09 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 10, 2013 at 10:28 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 10, 2013 at 8:30 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Whateverist - December 10, 2013 at 8:34 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by houseofcantor - December 10, 2013 at 10:48 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 10, 2013 at 10:51 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Crossless1 - December 10, 2013 at 11:00 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 10, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by paulpablo - December 10, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Whateverist - December 10, 2013 at 11:21 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 10, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by paulpablo - December 10, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by houseofcantor - December 10, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by EgoRaptor - December 10, 2013 at 12:06 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 1:08 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 10, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 2:36 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 3:01 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 2:03 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 10, 2013 at 2:50 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Simon Moon - December 10, 2013 at 2:52 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 10, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 3:35 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 10, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Mister Agenda - December 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Zazzy - December 10, 2013 at 3:38 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cato - December 10, 2013 at 5:59 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by The Valkyrie - December 10, 2013 at 6:24 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by ThomM - December 10, 2013 at 6:37 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 4:47 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 4:57 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 5:13 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 6:04 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Ben Davis - December 11, 2013 at 6:58 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 6:17 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 6:28 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 6:39 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 6:56 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 11, 2013 at 7:24 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 7:59 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Ben Davis - December 11, 2013 at 8:14 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 8:22 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Whateverist - December 11, 2013 at 12:01 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 8:04 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 8:08 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 8:24 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Angrboda - December 12, 2013 at 3:29 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 12, 2013 at 4:01 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 12, 2013 at 5:02 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Brakeman - December 11, 2013 at 8:04 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by zenblaster - December 11, 2013 at 8:40 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 8:40 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Ben Davis - December 11, 2013 at 9:16 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by LostLocke - December 11, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 1:22 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by LostLocke - December 11, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by LostLocke - December 11, 2013 at 1:50 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Crossless1 - December 11, 2013 at 2:05 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by LostLocke - December 11, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Crossless1 - December 11, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by paulpablo - December 11, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 11, 2013 at 9:30 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 11, 2013 at 9:34 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 11, 2013 at 10:09 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 8:46 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 8:48 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 8:52 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 10:51 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 11:07 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by max-greece - December 11, 2013 at 9:33 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by LostLocke - December 11, 2013 at 2:07 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 11, 2013 at 2:28 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 11, 2013 at 2:34 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 11, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by downbeatplumb - December 11, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 2:50 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 3:08 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 11, 2013 at 3:23 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 11, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by EgoRaptor - December 11, 2013 at 6:51 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 11, 2013 at 3:35 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 3:39 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Brian37 - December 11, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by The Valkyrie - December 11, 2013 at 10:02 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 11, 2013 at 10:05 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by The Valkyrie - December 11, 2013 at 10:22 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by feeling - December 12, 2013 at 12:33 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 12, 2013 at 6:12 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 12, 2013 at 6:32 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Brakeman - December 12, 2013 at 8:09 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 12, 2013 at 7:58 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Brian37 - December 12, 2013 at 8:05 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 12, 2013 at 8:08 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Brian37 - December 12, 2013 at 8:37 am

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