(December 17, 2013 at 6:50 am)Nineteen Wrote:(December 16, 2013 at 8:04 pm)LostLocke Wrote: Lowest point on land. Not the lowest point on Earth.
That belongs to the Mariana Trench. If the Bible/Qur'an said that, that would at least be a little more impressive for that time period, when people were no where near going to those depths yet.
Verse says ; fi-ednel-"ard"i
"Ard" means "earth surface" , not land .
"Deni" means "low"
"Edna" is derived from the word "deni" , it means "lowest" .
If we put aside all and thinks that you dont know anything about arabic . You had write "on land" , not "on the land" . So provides a general sense , not a specific place .
(December 16, 2013 at 8:11 pm)Beccs Wrote: Provide this knowledge that couldn't be known by humans, please. And not vague passages that have been interpreted to mean something you or others want them to mean. Actual clear, concise passages.
Comic and a sided perspective , not an objective perspective , also I dont expect an atheist to be objective no more , atheists are different than I thought .
Anyway , again I will provide you with a simple example . When the America was discovered ? in years 1500s . America wasnt known by anyone until this years . But Quran talks about all the earth in the verse . So includes America continent . So Allah knows that there is no place lower than the around of Lutte , including the America continent . I have proved .
Now I wonder the next challenge , maybe you will try to dig a bore which is lowest than the Lutte or you will deny the date of discovery of America or you will say Greeks were also know this .
This is really so funny .
Did you read the full paper I linked to? I didn't think so. And there are loads of man-made places lower that the bottom of the dead sea. And loads of other places in the world lower (they are under the actual sea).