(January 15, 2014 at 8:06 pm)rasetsu Wrote: Those were conditional statements, so no, I wasn't judging. I said 'if' God's reasons were the same as those given to Job, which you repeat almost verbatim by saying "He's god and you're not," then yes we can judge them, because those aren't valid reasons for explaining why God did what he did to Job. That's equivalent to me shooting your dog, and when you ask why, I reply "because I can." If God's answer is only "because I'm God," then I don't need to know more to judge him. If he has other reasons than this, you haven't presented them. Matter of fact, you are claiming to know God's reasons by implying they are beyond my comprehension. How would you know this? You wouldn't. Perhaps God's real reason for the genocide of the flood was, "I was pissed at an angel, and needed to take it out on someone." You can't have it both ways. Either you don't know God's meanings, in which case you can't say they are beyond my comprehension, because you don't know; or you claim to know God's intentions well enough to imply that they are beyond my comprehension. You would at least need to know something about God's thinking just to make either statement. So no, your dodge doesn't work because it's essentially a lie; if you truly don't understand the intentions of your God, then you're in no position to say they aren't comprehensible because you just don't know.
You're trying to play both sides of the "knowing God's intentions" quandary at the same time, and it doesn't work. Either you don't know, and must be silent. Or you do know, which makes your claim that you don't pretend to know God's intention a lie. You didn't keep silent, so that makes you a liar.
You don't get to play God's lawyer and then claim you know nothing about the details of the case.
(January 14, 2014 at 9:24 pm)Avodaiah Wrote:I never said I know for sure that God's intentions were good. I said it may be that God had another reason other than "This deity isn't smart", and likewise, it may be that God isn't being malevolent. The fact that God is God only shows that there may be something God knows that we don't.(January 14, 2014 at 9:15 pm)Chad32 Wrote: And then seeing how poorly giving someone free will goes, when you're as much of a control freak as Yahweh is, he still gave it to humans. This deity isn't very smart.Maybe God has a reason for doing it that we don't know? That would make Him smarter than us, not dumber.
If God really does exist, we would expect Him to be this way, wouldn't we?