Atheists, George Zimmerman and the burden of proof

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As I said before that is normally the case with murder. You can;t just change the rules because of that

I think all people adhere to a variety of ideologies. I agree with a lot of your ideological positions, certainly every one of those you just listed.

These aren't ideologies -they are positions. An ideology is where you have an overiding viewpoint which informs the vast majority of your positions. With Minimalist you know all his positions in advance because they are consistent with his Ideology. More or less that is you all round. The nearest thing I have to Ideology is 'Whig'

But, then, you label others as 'race-baiters', and that is a term which carries a lot of connotations.

It carries the direct accusation that people use race as a means to gain power and influence unjustly.

It ignores the solid fact that young, black males are much more likely to take an undeserved fucking by our legal system than any other demographic, and that a lot of people in support of Zimmerman tried very hard to sway the public debate on the basis that, as a young, black male dressed in a hoodie, it was hard to believe that he could be the victim because 'his kind' are usually the victimizers.

Being liberal (in the real meaning not the modern US definition) I look on each case by its individual merits I don't chose one saide based on ideology which the conservatives and you leftists do. I don't think any of you could care less about the merits you just saw a black vs white conflict and took the black side on principal. The conservatives have rightly identified
that such people are race baiters and need to be labelled and confronted.

Now, you can incorrectly ascertain from what I just said that I'm implying that you're a racist. Given your other positions, I can't believe that's true, but you open yourself up to misunderstanding when you use a term racists frequently use to attack those who expose them as racists.

If you are ,like me, a classic liberal, you will constantly be called racist (and sexist) by people who want to treat people as part of a collective and not as individuals. These are people of the left and who are not liberals. US conservatives might call you and Minimalist liberals I think you are no such thing- you are leftists, collectivists who want to give bonuses and penalties to entire groups. Indeed leftists call me whole colourblind position 'racist' just as they subscribe to the nonsense that black people can't be racist (which to me Eric Holder amply demonstrates the opposite).I am certainly not going to change my language so as not to incur the wrath of people whose far leftist ideology with its opposition to individualism is so pronounced.

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I think all people adhere to a variety of ideologies. I agree with a lot of your ideological positions, certainly every one of those you just listed.

These aren't ideologies -they are positions. An ideology is where you have an overiding viewpoint which informs the vast majority of your positions. With Minimalist you know all his positions in advance because they are consistent with his Ideology. More or less that is you all round. The nearest thing I have to Ideology is 'Whig'

But, then, you label others as 'race-baiters', and that is a term which carries a lot of connotations.

It carries the direct accusation that people use race as a means to gain power and influence unjustly.

It ignores the solid fact that young, black males are much more likely to take an undeserved fucking by our legal system than any other demographic, and that a lot of people in support of Zimmerman tried very hard to sway the public debate on the basis that, as a young, black male dressed in a hoodie, it was hard to believe that he could be the victim because 'his kind' are usually the victimizers.

Being liberal (in the real meaning not the modern US definition) I look on each case by its individual merits I don't chose one saide based on ideology which the conservatives and you leftists do. I don't think any of you could care less about the merits you just saw a black vs white conflict and took the black side on principal. The conservatives have rightly identified
that such people are race baiters and need to be labelled and confronted.

Now, you can incorrectly ascertain from what I just said that I'm implying that you're a racist. Given your other positions, I can't believe that's true, but you open yourself up to misunderstanding when you use a term racists frequently use to attack those who expose them as racists.

If you are ,like me, a classic liberal, you will constantly be called racist (and sexist) by people who want to treat people as part of a collective and not as individuals. These are people of the left and who are not liberals. US conservatives might call you and Minimalist liberals I think you are no such thing- you are leftists, collectivists who want to give bonuses and penalties to entire groups. Indeed leftists call my whole colourblind position 'racist' just as they subscribe to the nonsense that black people can't be racist (which to me Eric Holder amply demonstrates the opposite).I am certainly not going to change my language so as not to incur the wrath of people whose far leftist ideology with its opposition to individualism is so pronounced.