Quote:EvidenceVsFaith - I'm not the one claiming the supernatural.So I don't have to prove it then. You are claiming it. So you have to prove it or ignore me. And whenever you claim it I can ask for proof. I'm curious why you claim God exactly if you can't give evidence of him?
Daystar - I didn't say that you were.
Quote:Daystar - It may be correct to dismiss some claims that lack evidence if it has been thoroughly established that that is in fact the case, however there is always the possibility that the evidence just hasn't 'presented itself' to the casual observer or they hadn't bothered to look at it because they were already of the opinion that it was for shit. This is based upon the possibility that there is nothing further that can be done with a lack of evidence. Especially actually look for evidence, right? Right.Looking for evidence is different to claiming the supernatural and not explaining how it exists. Looking for evidence is fine. But why would I want to look for evidence in a 2000+ year old book? I'd rather stick with where evidence is actually seen than going off into nowhere hoping to find evidence. Why would their be evidence of the outside world inside a book unless there's a mathematical equation in there or something? Explain please. I have read parts of the bible. And it gives no more proof of 'the supernatural' than a Doctor Seuss book has. Its not like if I read the whole thing I'd suddenly think "OH. So it says God exists and miracles happen so it must be true!"
Quote:By the way, Mr. Evidence ... I have noticed that your own evidence regarding the mutation of the Pepper Moth is obstanately persisting in its abscence!I haven't heard of the pepper moth. Is that those moths that evolve to be smoke coloured because of pollution? That I've heard about (not even sure if they exist I have only heard tbh, my Dad told me years back) If you're expecting me to give evidence for its evolution then you're playing pure "God of the gaps". Expecting me to prove every single individual species' evolution. When would it be enough? When will you see? What evidence would it take to change your mind?.
I see no evidence there at all!
[looks under the bed] No evidence here!
[asks the cat] No. Hasn't seen any ...
Hmmmm .... Should I just dismiss it because there is no evidence or is the [] evolution shit?
If you understand evolution you will understand that it applies to all living things. Its stupid to just pick out individual species and say "prove that", "prove that!", "Prove that".
Thats 'God of the gaps'. You spot a gap and expect proof or the whole thing is flawed. Although you do so far tend to think the whole thing is a big hole and thats of course the problem! I'm not saying for sure that science has the evidence (because I don't really have any idea what this moth is for a start) but its stupid to expect me to prove every species you say.
There's no point in that. That's silly. Understand evolution and you'll understand how creatures evolve.
How can you understand how the "Pepper Moth" evolved if you don't understand evolution itself at least at a fundamental level?
