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What would it take for you to believe in God?
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RE: What would it take for you to believe in God?
(April 29, 2014 at 11:10 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:
(April 29, 2014 at 10:56 pm)te1148 Wrote: I depend on faith, because I think faith is superior to reason. Reason rests in what my own mental faculties can comprehend. Also, I see a huge problem with what "facts". Facts are always interpreted and therefore subject to error. Also, I think my presuppositions are tested and proven true nearly every day. One of my presuppositions is that I am really sinful and don't deserve any good whatsoever. I believe that my sin has earned me eternal punishment in Hell, but by faith in Jesus, God gives me grace and shows me favor, instead of the punishment I deserve. I see that presupposition proven true every day.

I don't think there are any ways to prove 100% that God exists. God never seeks to prove that He exists. He just exists. Reason, intellect, and evidences are not enough.

So basically, what you experience in the real world contradicts what your book tells you, and your solution is to say: "I can't trust what I experience because reasoning and facts are wrong and subject to error."

Can't you see how intellectually backwards this is? When you start with the fact that your presupposition cannot be wrong, you are invalidating your faculties of reasoning. Why trust anything you experience? Why is it curiously only the things that contradict your god claim that are untrustworthy?

Personally, I abhor any dogma that preaches that man is broken and worthless. What a shitty thing to teach people, to teach children. It's disgusting. I don't need a god to be a good person. I treat people well, give back to my community, love my family, and do good by others, all without your god. How's that possible?

I think man is broken, but certainly not worthless. And if this is true, then it would be horrible and wrong not to tell people. Being broken does not mean that is impossible to do good. We all have common grace from God that allows us to possess certain good attributes. But it does mean that every part of us is tainted by sin, and if there is a holy God, and if we are sinful people, then telling people that is the most loving thing one can do.
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What would it take for you to believe in God? - by te1148 - April 29, 2014 at 8:57 pm
RE: What would it take for you to believe in God? - by te1148 - April 29, 2014 at 11:16 pm

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