RE: The free will argument demonstrates that christians don't understand free will.
April 30, 2014 at 7:31 pm
(April 30, 2014 at 10:59 am)Kitanetos Wrote:(April 30, 2014 at 10:51 am)Little lunch Wrote: But do you really have a choice to drink that coffee?
Yes. You can drink it or you can not drink it. One has to choose between one or the other, because one cannot do both.
(April 30, 2014 at 10:51 am)Little lunch Wrote: If you drink it you always were going to drink it.
Bolded for emphasis.
The opposite can also be stated. If you don't drink it, you always were going to not drink it.. See above statement about not being able to do both drinking and not drinking; which means a choice is always involved.
I agree that a choice is involved.
Let me put it this way. Someone drops you into a room with two doors. You can choose between one or the other but you didn't choose to be in the room.
After you've chosen one door, if we could rewind back in time to before that choice, would you ever pick the other one?
We are like shadows, we exist but do not really choose our shape or movements.
(Apart from the fact that shadows are not conscious that they exist).
Basically, the reasons we do things, right or wrong is because we were born.
If there is a reason for anything that ever happens, there can be no free will.
If anyone agrees with me or knows what I'm talking about, I wouldn't mind having it explained better, cause I'm shit at it.
I'll go do some research and see if I can find a better interpretation, like from an actual scientist.
:-)
