(May 9, 2014 at 12:16 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(May 9, 2014 at 1:34 am)Esquilax Wrote: The latter is the subtext though, as the logical reasons they state ultimately fail, and yet are never retracted. As I've said many times, you can't logic something into existence, and if your whole position attempts to do an end run around demonstrability by just arguing why it's impossible for something to not exist, well then you're probably hiding a more personal reason for why you think this thing should exist.But you can prove something true about existence by applying reason to experience independent of what one hopes to find.
Your psychological speculations about believers do not apply to all. I was an atheist but reluctantly accepted the reality of God when confronted with specific philosophical problems. Just because someone reaches a different conclusion than you does not always mean they must be delutional, weak, or stupid. Maybe they're merely wrong. And just maybe you are wrong.
What philosophical problems? Postulating a God causes more problems than it solves. Where did God come from? Is there more than one? What's the purpose of God? And even if there is a God, who created the universe, what makes you think God wants or need a relationship with you? What makes you think such a God gives a damn about your existence or pays any attention to what you think or do?
By the way reality is reality - so what's with the 'reluctantly' accepting the reality of God? Philosophical musings/problems do not generate a reality! I can think and imagine many things, but they do not become a reality because I think of them.
