Pro-life atheists

[The Valkyrie]

I can only assume that you're referring to the annihilation of the native population of the Western hemisphere by Christians, the undisputed masters of the ideology (no less today than 200 years ago) that certain humans are more valuable than others.

What do Christians, NAZI's, and Pro-abortion people have in common? They all practice an ideology which dictates that some human beings are worth more than others.

Now on the individual level, there is nothing wrong with this. We value our spouses and children more than we value the spouses and children of our neighbors. However, as a social policy it sucks. It is the policy that led to the genocide of the Jews and Native Americans and countless others.

Abortion has its foundation in this same policy.

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I know what you mean. I am not pro-abortion. I am pro-choice. Sometimes for some people, abortion is the best option. Sometimes it's the only option. It isn't my place to tell someone what options are best for them. I know someone who had an abortion too. She never struggled with it and she never felt guilty. She doesn't think abortions are fun and she doesn't go around telling people to have them, but she does counsel people who struggle after abortion. I've talked with her a lot about it. She says she has no regrets because she knows what she did was right for herself, her family, and even her fetus.
Being anti choice is not the way to go about ending abortion. We could almost completely cut out all abortions that aren't medically necessary. The brick wall that is blocking our path is that the same people who are anti-choice are generally also anti-sexual education, anti-contraceptives, anti-women's health in general. Political figures who advocate against choice also advocate against sex ed that teaches anything but abstinence, they advocate huge cuts in what health insurance should have to cover for women, they advocate against birth control, they advocate against health care for newborn babies whose parents cannot afford it, they advocate against everything that we would need to reduce abortions. It pisses me off.

You say there is a dark side to abortion. Well if it comes to a child suffering because their parents cannot afford to feed them, buy them clothes, and give them proper health care, or because their parents don't want them and cannot be bothered to care for them properly, I see abortion as the lessor of two evils.

You are trying to take both sides of the issue....saying it is wrong and not wrong.

Take a stand.

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What is your criteria for a human being?

Open up a junior high biology text and it will likely contain a graphic of the life cycle of a human being. The graphic will include a zygote and senior citizen.

So, let me ask you. By your criteria, when is abortion allowable?

1. When a girl/woman is raped and ends up pregnant.
2. Same as above but the girl is 10-14 years old
3. As above, but the case is incest
4. COntinuing the pregnancy puts the mother's life at high risk
5. Severe abnormality of the fetus.
6. As 5., but the fetus likely live but require medical care all of its life, and will be severly brain damaged.