Get In The Ark Before It Is Too Late!!!

[Cyberman]

Wow, you wait a week for a reply and half a dozen come along at once:

Rev, would you please address, or at least acknowledge, my question from page 9? I'll reprint it so you don't have to dig for it:

In what way am I deceived, and who (if anyone) has been doing the deceiving? To what purpose?

Thank you. Oh, and if you could formulate your reply in your own words and not copypasta a storybook, that'd be great.

Dear Stimbo,
You obviously are very intelligent and have mastered the English language when compared to me.

Uh oh, soft soap. Get ready for the handjob of a lifetime.

However, if you believe that God is not real and that Jesus never existed then you are deceived.

Please point to a single post where I've said this. If you want to attack a strawman, knock yourself out. Just don't put ny name to it.

Just so we're clear, I am not an atheist because I don't believe your - or any - god doesn't exist. My atheism is based solely on theists not having demonstrated that their pet god does exist. In other words, I am as yet unconvinced that anything you and others tell me about your various gods are true and representative of anything real. Know what would convince me? Evidence. Prove to me that the car you're selling is actually there and I'll consider buying it. Until then, my money stays in my pocket with my belief.

The purpose of Satan is that because He has been condemned he wants to bring down as many with him as possible.

Know what doesn't convince me? Crap like this. Pointing to one part of your mythology to validate another part. Give me something I can get my teeth into, that doesn't come from the storybook. Anything. For crying out loud, this sort of thing ought to be trivial to do, given the claims made about it.

I am pretty sure you will think I am crazy and reject this but this is my answer to your question. Good day.

No, not crazy; that's just your martyr chip talking. It's telling you that the only reason I am “rejecting“ what you say is because I'm dismissing the source and the messenger, not because it's unconvincing.

He hasn't even acknowledged mine yet, and I've asked him twice. I thought he liked me.

I could weep over you.

Not while I still have my strength you won't. I told you, it's very flattering but I'm not buttered that way. Sorry.

100% pure unadulterated doublethink, in the finest Orwellian sense!

Rev, you truly are the gift that keeps on giving! Ever thought of doing standup?

Rather be known as a modern day ambassador of the Lord sent to the atheistforum board with a message of hope and salvation.

If your sole reason for being here is to preach, then leave now. This is a discussion board, not a pulpit. You're not going to find any prey around these parts.

You know what any flood, global or otherwise, would leave behind? I'll give you a clue: it starts with ”e”. And ends with "vidence".

You know what there isn't for your flood? Want another clue?

Perhaps a future discussion

I can't wait.

No seriously, I can't.

So you don't worship a god. You worship a book.

I worship the Lord. The book speaks of Him.

And without the book you'd have no way of knowing anything about this god, its nature or its character - even of concluding that it's a him. Let's put it this way:

If all scientific knowledge were to vanish in some cataclysm, at some point in the future it's reasonable to expect that most, if not all, of the same discoveries (fire, the wheel, gravity etc) and the principles behind them would eventually be rediscovered.

Conversely, if this book of yours and all knowledge of it were wiped from existence, your god would disappear forever.