Crucifixes: good against vampires and Jesus. That's what I call value for money.

That makes me wonder how much Jesus actually likes the idea of the cross being the holy symbol for his followers. That can't have been a fun experience for him, but they focus more on his death than his actual resurrection. You'd think the christian holy symbol would be a tomb with an open door, since that's really the important part. It's not that Jesus taught some good things and then got killed. It's that he rose from the dead to show he wasn't just another wandering teacher with some progressive ideas.

Yet it's the cross, and not the tomb, that they use for their holy symbol.

(June 13, 2014 at 9:47 am)Chad32 Wrote: That makes me wonder how much Jesus actually likes the idea of the cross being the holy symbol for his followers. That can't have been a fun experience for him, but they focus more on his death than his actual resurrection. You'd think the christian holy symbol would be a tomb with an open door, since that's really the important part. It's not that Jesus taught some good things and then got killed. It's that he rose from the dead to show he wasn't just another wandering teacher with some progressive ideas.

Yet it's the cross, and not the tomb, that they use for their holy symbol.

To be fair, I think a cross is just easier to draw.

(June 13, 2014 at 9:47 am)Chad32 Wrote: That makes me wonder how much Jesus actually likes the idea of the cross being the holy symbol for his followers. That can't have been a fun experience for him, but they focus more on his death than his actual resurrection. You'd think the christian holy symbol would be a tomb with an open door, since that's really the important part. It's not that Jesus taught some good things and then got killed. It's that he rose from the dead to show he wasn't just another wandering teacher with some progressive ideas.

Yet it's the cross, and not the tomb, that they use for their holy symbol.

Good thought. My guess is the cross is where the victory of sin was won, and the tomb, the victory over death.

(June 13, 2014 at 10:37 am)Revelation777 Wrote:

(June 13, 2014 at 9:47 am)Chad32 Wrote: That makes me wonder how much Jesus actually likes the idea of the cross being the holy symbol for his followers. That can't have been a fun experience for him, but they focus more on his death than his actual resurrection. You'd think the christian holy symbol would be a tomb with an open door, since that's really the important part. It's not that Jesus taught some good things and then got killed. It's that he rose from the dead to show he wasn't just another wandering teacher with some progressive ideas.

Yet it's the cross, and not the tomb, that they use for their holy symbol.

Good thought. My guess is the cross is where the victory of sin was won, and the tomb, the victory over death.

My guess is the cross and the tomb were both chosen by the passive aggressive pothead herds of the make belief shepard for their shock value to the somewhat more urbane and respectable culture of the roman world.

(June 13, 2014 at 9:47 am)Chad32 Wrote: That makes me wonder how much Jesus actually likes the idea of the cross being the holy symbol for his followers. That can't have been a fun experience for him, but they focus more on his death than his actual resurrection. You'd think the christian holy symbol would be a tomb with an open door, since that's really the important part. It's not that Jesus taught some good things and then got killed. It's that he rose from the dead to show he wasn't just another wandering teacher with some progressive ideas.

Yet it's the cross, and not the tomb, that they use for their holy symbol.

Because they're sick..............

(The resurrection only serves to fulfill prophesy, a godly cv..as it were. The crucifixion however is said to have paid an unpayable cosmic debt - I can see why one might focus on it.........they're sick...........)

(June 12, 2014 at 11:15 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: I would say Satan is the second most intelligent force in the universe. Way more clever and intelligent then we. He deceives the whole world in rejecting the Truth. Obviously, he easily accomplished his goal on this board.

Yet, ironically, you can't prove, or even know that God is telling you the truth. From a logical perspective, it's entirely possible they're both lying, or that God is lying and Satan is telling the truth. You only believe God because you want to. Remember the notion that the victor gets to write the history books. If you assume God and Satan exist and believe God makes the claims said in the Bible, God hasn't demonstrated honesty; he's demonstrated victory and poisoning the well against his opposition. You're told to distrust Satan before he can even plead his case.

And really, you have no reason to trust God. If you believe he's real, you would be right to fear him, but not to trust him. We are told not to kill, yet God kills all the time. Apologists excuse this away by saying that those rules apply to us or that God has no moral imperative not to kill us. Similarly, we're told not to lie. The apologetics are clear: those rules don't apply to God and he has no moral imperative not to lie to us. Sure, it's possible he's telling the truth, but he would only do so if he wants to, and you're relying on trusting the will and motivations of an admitted child-killer.

I'm not saying you should start trying to converse with Satan (he's probably not real, and that'd make you a crazy person), but you should totally question why you place your trust where you do without question, and why you make excuses for someone who refuses to let you question his actions.

God breaks up with his boyfriend and then talks endless shit about the poor fucker. Seen it :yawn:

Rev, please address my last post.

He hasn't even acknowledged mine yet, and I've asked him twice. I thought he liked me.