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Chaos theory
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RE: Chaos theory
(July 14, 2014 at 7:23 pm)bennyboy Wrote:
(July 14, 2014 at 7:18 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: Yes, chaos theory definitely, but not germane to a discussion about the butterfly effect. The butterfly effect isn't about a butterfly flying past a sensor that triggers a weather machine.

I don't believe in chaos. Given enough data and enough compute power we could probably calculate the results. Oh, or even better, they all happen in parallel universes. No, I'm not just trying to be a wanker. If m-theory is correct, then all possibilities occur and I don't know how to explain why we only perceive the one we actually perceive.
Ignoring trigger events is wrong, IMO. Even an eddy of wind can be a trigger event if it is the straw that broke the back of a slightly larger eddy on the verge of changing direction or whatever.


I failed to see how M-theory is relevant. M-theory merely stipulates all possible outcomes occur when examined across the whole m-space. It says nothing about which possible outcome occurs in which part of m-space.

Chaos theory says in many situations, which of the possible outcomes occurs in which part of m-space is much harder to predict than might be envisioned in classical physics of 19th century.

The only objection you raised boils down to this "if I fave perfect knowledge and perfect foresight, then I can predict everything". QM sets limit on just how perfect knowledge and foresight can be, and it is not perfect enough at even its most perfect to predict everything. But even without going to the granularity of QM, chaos theory say some systems are divergent, that is to say accuracy of prediction that can be made of it are particularly sensitive to Inexactness of knowledge and imperfection of foresight. Others are convergent, which is to say accuracy of prediction that can be made of it are insensitive to Inexactness of knowledge or imperfection of foresight.
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Chaos theory - by MagetheEntertainer - July 13, 2014 at 5:03 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by The Grand Nudger - July 13, 2014 at 5:15 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by ignoramus - July 13, 2014 at 5:46 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by FreeTony - July 13, 2014 at 6:25 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by bennyboy - July 13, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by ShaMan - July 13, 2014 at 8:17 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by Losty - July 13, 2014 at 8:28 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by FreeTony - July 14, 2014 at 5:47 am
RE: Chaos theory - by bennyboy - July 14, 2014 at 9:44 am
RE: Chaos theory - by Rhizomorph13 - July 14, 2014 at 11:22 am
RE: Chaos theory - by bennyboy - July 14, 2014 at 7:04 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by Thumpalumpacus - July 14, 2014 at 8:46 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by Anomalocaris - July 14, 2014 at 12:02 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by LastPoet - July 14, 2014 at 12:19 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by FreeTony - July 14, 2014 at 12:40 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by Anomalocaris - July 14, 2014 at 12:47 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by Rhizomorph13 - July 14, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by Anomalocaris - July 14, 2014 at 6:24 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by Rhizomorph13 - July 14, 2014 at 7:04 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by Anomalocaris - July 14, 2014 at 7:11 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by Rhizomorph13 - July 14, 2014 at 7:18 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by bennyboy - July 14, 2014 at 7:23 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by Anomalocaris - July 14, 2014 at 7:47 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by FreeTony - July 14, 2014 at 5:34 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by ShaMan - July 14, 2014 at 6:32 pm
RE: Chaos theory - by FreeTony - July 15, 2014 at 12:43 pm

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