RE: I saw this (non religious) video on Facebook and it made me angry
August 28, 2014 at 4:00 am
(This post was last modified: August 28, 2014 at 4:07 am by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
[/quote]Have you ever sat on a real jury before?
I don't presume to speak for the other posters here, but I am not making an emotion-based argument. I agree with you to the extent that the majority of jurors do their best to reach an unbiased verdict based on the evidence and arguments presented to them.
But your insinuation that juries never bring back guilty verdicts irrespective of the evidence before them simply beggars belief (to be fair, I've also no doubt that some people have been acquitted due to their skin colour, evidence aside).
You seem to want to ascribe to juries and magistrates a nobility of spirit and an impartiality that, while laudable when it exists, is by no means universal.
Boru
addendum: I fucked up the quote tags and can't be arsed to fix them.
Quote:Twice. Once for fraud, once for attempted murder.When profiling cops rarly have the perspective of back ground info. At a real trial (not the tv kind) the state actually provides evidence to a person's guilt, and the defense provides an excuse or evidence to the contrary.
Quote:With you so far.(Very methodical very complete, beyond a shadow of a doubt)
Quote:Wrong. The standard is beyond a reasonable doubt.Again in this country profiling ends with evidence..
Quote:That would be wonderful if it were true. Again, are you seriously maintaining that no one has EVER been convicted wrongly, based on skin colour or some other equally irrelevant factor, evidence notwithstanding?(It ironic that I of all people am using the evidence arguement to beat back emotion based arguements.)[quote]
I don't presume to speak for the other posters here, but I am not making an emotion-based argument. I agree with you to the extent that the majority of jurors do their best to reach an unbiased verdict based on the evidence and arguments presented to them.
But your insinuation that juries never bring back guilty verdicts irrespective of the evidence before them simply beggars belief (to be fair, I've also no doubt that some people have been acquitted due to their skin colour, evidence aside).
You seem to want to ascribe to juries and magistrates a nobility of spirit and an impartiality that, while laudable when it exists, is by no means universal.
Boru
addendum: I fucked up the quote tags and can't be arsed to fix them.
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson