(October 13, 2014 at 11:01 pm)Drich Wrote: The stock answers are that of spiritual fruit. Spiritual fruit are the evidences of the Holy Spirit, hence stock answers. Meaning this in level one. Even in level one let's say the most anyone can do (love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. ") Is on a scale from one to ten.
Let's say your faithful to God and give Him all that you can of those qualities. When you are blessed with level one Holy Spirit you capsity has just increases to 15. And so on it goes. The more you are faithful to the spiritual fruit you have the more you will be given till you manifest a spiritual gift. Be faithful to your spiritual gift and you will receive another one, till you reach your capasity.
So again the well of love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Has the potential to be as deep as God Himself is.
See? All this slow level grinding requires time and energy too costly to waste. Let's go with Buddhism or Jainism where you start with level 25 without the dumb holy spirit thingy.
Btw, the fact that those qualities are available to those who don't take in the holy spirit means that they are not evidence for the spirit.