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Ed Feser's Aristotelian Proof of the Existence of God
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RE: Ed Feser's Aristotelian Proof of the Existence of God
(October 15, 2014 at 8:37 am)ChadWooters Wrote: That would take too much effort. Your post is such a confused mess that it isn't even wrong. You do not even know that deduction and inference are synonyms, both being the process whereby one uses sound reasoning to gain knowledge of what one does not know from things that are already known. We can know many things from the senses and experience of which we can be certain without submitting them to empirical testing. We know that things exist and we know that they change. From these two fundamental facts, we can deduce, or infer, certain knowledge of various types of cause, potential and actuality, etc., substantial form, etc.

Not everything of which people know can, or needs to be, tested empirically which is what I believe you are claiming. For those that are truly interested, the meat of the Feser's lecture is around 30 min.

Deduction and inference are most certainly not synonyms.
The rest of your post is equally laughable.

(October 14, 2014 at 11:01 pm)HopOnPop Wrote: Rather, as an alternative, try something novel -- merely start from the biggest special plea that there is -- namely, that we both accept, from the start, that there is a fundamental shared reality that we both preceive and exist within. Is that a possible starting reference point that you might consider instead?

Except that is an assumption, not a special pleading. It is an excellent assumption.

A special pleading would be "There is a fundamental shared reality that we both perceive and exist within except God exists outside of it.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: Ed Feser's Aristotelian Proof of the Existence of God - by Chas - October 16, 2014 at 7:57 am

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