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Killing of homosexuals/apostates/adulterous in Quran/Bible
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RE: Killing of homosexuals/apostates/adulterous in Quran/Bible
(October 25, 2014 at 7:38 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: One of the things Muslims believe is that Quran came to correct the Bible were it was wrong. In the Bible it was taught that God once commanded to kill for

1) Adultery (stoning)
2) Apostasy
3) Men having sex with each other

Now the Quran states Bani-Israel were in fact only allowed to kill for two reasons:


مِنْ أَجْلِ ذَٰلِكَ كَتَبْنَا عَلَىٰ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ أَنَّهُ مَنْ قَتَلَ نَفْسًا بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِي الْأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا وَمَنْ أَحْيَاهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا ۚ وَلَقَدْ جَاءَتْهُمْ رُسُلُنَا بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ ثُمَّ إِنَّ كَثِيرًا مِنْهُمْ بَعْدَ ذَٰلِكَ فِي الْأَرْضِ لَمُسْرِفُونَ {32}
[Shakir 5:32] For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our messengers came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land.

1) would be for murder (the person killed another person)
2) the other would be causing mischief in land like war

Now

Adultery would be neither of these
Homosexuals having sex would be neither of these
And an apostate leaving his religion would neither of these

Yet Muslims believe these were laws of Musa that were also laws of Mohammad.

I'm sure I've heard of other circumstances. There's a part in the quran where a woman can be imprisoned at home until she starves to death, as a punishment for some sort of sexual crime.

I think the reason why Muslims stone people to death even though the quran doesn't mention it is because of the hadiths, which talk of how Muhammad wanted adulterers and homosexuals to be treated.

If you view the quran as a technical document of strict instructions there's actually nothing in the quran forbidding gay marriage either, it does give explicit codes of law about who a man is not allowed to marry, and other men is not mentioned in the law.


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RE: Killing of homosexuals/apostates/adulterous in Quran/Bible - by paulpablo - October 25, 2014 at 10:39 pm

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