(October 30, 2014 at 12:41 pm)FreeTony Wrote:"I don't know," isn't a real option for you, because what you are essensially saying it you don't know what the natural cause is. You have already excluded the supernatural from consideration.(October 30, 2014 at 12:02 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: By default that means that atheists must believe that every known phenomena has a non-divine cause.
How would you demonstrate a phenomena has a divine cause?
If this isn't possible, then I'm left with either a natural cause, or an "I don't know" what caused it.
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Belief and Knowledge - by Heywood - October 29, 2014 at 8:19 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Chad32 - October 29, 2014 at 8:26 pm
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RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Chad32 - October 29, 2014 at 8:57 pm
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RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Heywood - October 29, 2014 at 9:24 pm
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RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Mister Agenda - October 30, 2014 at 1:00 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by bennyboy - October 29, 2014 at 9:20 pm
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RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Heywood - October 29, 2014 at 11:40 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Surgenator - October 30, 2014 at 12:04 am
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Jenny A - October 30, 2014 at 2:20 am
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Heywood - October 30, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Mister Agenda - October 30, 2014 at 3:15 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Esquilax - October 30, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Heywood - October 30, 2014 at 9:00 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Mudhammam - October 30, 2014 at 9:41 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Chas - October 30, 2014 at 9:41 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Esquilax - October 31, 2014 at 1:33 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Mister Agenda - October 31, 2014 at 3:24 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Heywood - October 31, 2014 at 10:21 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Mister Agenda - November 3, 2014 at 11:39 am
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Heywood - November 3, 2014 at 12:02 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Cato - November 3, 2014 at 12:16 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Heywood - November 3, 2014 at 12:29 pm
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RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Chas - November 3, 2014 at 1:43 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by bennyboy - November 3, 2014 at 7:34 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Heywood - November 3, 2014 at 9:44 pm
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RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Heywood - November 7, 2014 at 7:39 am
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Whateverist - November 7, 2014 at 9:39 am
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RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Mister Agenda - November 7, 2014 at 12:01 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Mudhammam - October 30, 2014 at 7:18 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Jenny A - October 30, 2014 at 11:53 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Heywood - October 31, 2014 at 1:16 am
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RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Lao Shizi - October 29, 2014 at 10:33 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Surgenator - October 29, 2014 at 11:35 pm
RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Whateverist - October 30, 2014 at 2:30 am
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RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Whateverist - October 31, 2014 at 9:53 am
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RE: Belief and Knowledge - by Jenny A - October 30, 2014 at 12:49 pm
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