RE: Belief and Knowledge
November 1, 2014 at 10:54 am
(This post was last modified: November 1, 2014 at 10:56 am by Heywood.)
(November 1, 2014 at 10:39 am)Rhythm Wrote:(November 1, 2014 at 8:24 am)Heywood Wrote: What the evidence suggests to us is that our reality isn't all there is.....that perhaps effects in our reality can be caused outside of it.I'm not really sure that this suggestion is all that strong. That we do not know or cannot ascertain such a cause doesn;t to me, suggest that said cause must be "elsewhere". Was rain being caused "elsewhere" until the moment we hammered out the evapo-transpirative cycle? I think not. The evidence suggests that there is something that we do not know, not that something outside of reality is having an effect on something inside of reality - or even that these terms can be sensibly used when they are arranged thusly. That is a strangely specific sort of claim to flow from what is, boiled down to it's simplest - an invocation of the unknown unknown.
Poppycock.....this isn't a question of not knowing. This isn't some gap in our understanding.
If you wanted to make different statement about what the evidence suggest it is this. Not all effects have causes. I'm not going to swallow that pill....I'm not going to throw out causality from my world view when there is a viable coherent alternative.