Judgement day defense strageity.

[Mystic]

what if He tells you the reason He has never responded to your query was because you assumption on your inward guide was incorrect? And, that any response He gave you would just further you assumption that your version was correct?

Sorry but it's manifest to me that we have to an inward guide if there is any such thing as guidance. I believe anyone who does their best to follow the guidance with in through their own reflection and help of others, God will forgive him and give him enough guidance to have an honorable life. I have a sense of honor, of moral actions, of what it means to be great, I have a spiritual sense of God, all this I believe is guidance. I believe the pure word in the soul is the word of God. We had it all along. I've experience this. I don't know how God giving me a response will only make me more deluded. It feels that would be the default state if he doesn't respond and guide me.

..and if He said, what you read was sought out to support what your 'inner voice' wanted to be true?

Well, I will argue I was sincere in my judgement, and that if I was deluded by own inner voice and blinded by it, it was not out not wanting the truth but sincerely out of what I thought was obvious to me.

...and if it wasn't supposed to be 'more inspiring?' Again what if it was just supposed to be enough for one to get a start or push in the right direction?

I would think a book written by God would be that we couldn't expect it to be more inspiring then it is. It would be the ultimate inspiring book because he wants the best out of us. What you said will only make sense if God is not trying to make us the best human beings we can be but only cares if we make a minimum start. Besides to get started you don't need a book, people lived before the bible in different lands, and were human beings that lived moral lives, tried to live honorably, and had inward guidance. Remember without an inward guide or inward guidance, you wouldn't be able to tell if a book is a guidance or not.

what if He knew what you ment by that?

It seems though none of his followers do know what it is meant and the outward of it seems non-sense. It seems it contradicts language and makes three gods into one God which is a paradox. Each being a god and all one god. It seems the inward spiritual knowledge we have is just about one ultimate being that encompasses all greatness and misses no life and encompasses all life, and such nothing can be beside him. It doesn't make sense to make god to parts, or to divide him, because identity seems to be the ultimate great which is one by definition. We don't think of people as three parts, so why should God be thought of that?

If he alone knew what was meant by that and as it is contradicts humanities logic and understanding, he was better off keeping it to himself that doing this whole sacrifice thing that revolves around what seems to be a paradox (3 gods = 1 god thing).

..and if He told you the physical sacerfice was just a physical representation of the Spiritual cost of what God endured to 'just forgive humanity?'

There should be not spiritual cost of what God needs to endure. It doesn't make sense. And this going out of the way to do this bizarre act of human/god sacrifice just gets a whole lot of people condemned for not believing while the Bible teaches those who didn't get the word and were guided by the law in their hearts would be saved. It just makes the situation worse, it makes all about believing while before God would save people of out grace if they were good enough people.

Besides I believe people can be good, and this what God made me believe. I see good in people, and I believe even if they don't deserve forgiveness, God is grateful to goodness, that he would reward them. He doesn't need sacrifice. He is forgiving and grateful.

And all He wanted from is was a simple acknoweledgement for what was done for us? In essence God wanted some respect for what He endured, if we want to reap the benfits for said attonement?

I don't think it's that easy. We have to believe in a whole book, in a whole religion, in a whole doctrine...and be guided to know it's true...before we can acknowledge that God did this for us. Otherwise, there is no way to acknowledge it but just at out of sheer guess work. And at the end, this is saying, that we must believe in a religion to be saved or otherwise we go to hell. This is the ultimatum that God would be giving us if he did this sacrifice. On top of that, he would introducing an trinity aspect of him that seems non-sensical and no one believed that about him without being told about it...no deist believes in a trinity God for example...this shows you it's not ingrained in us and he would make that much harder.

what if He showed you what you understand to be good is relative?

Then I would tell him this is what I believe about people and could not think that all people deserved to be punished, so how could I accept a doctrine that tells us otherwise. When people are outside christianity, they don't come up with views that all humans deserve to be perpetually tortured or distanced from God no matter what they do, all people are on that level. That no human has made it to the level of deserving a good reward and a life of peace. This view is doctrinal and doesn't seem ingrained in us humans. Again, I can't give up the view I am inspired with simple because a book says otherwise which I can't verify to be true specially as it goes against everything God is inspiring to believe by inward guidance.

Besides to be honest...I think no one honestly believes no one is good, not even christians..it's just doctrine they take..but they don't actually believe that and distinguish between good and evil people.

and if he showed you that the book was just a road map, not the final destination?

I don't know how that changes anything...not accepting a road map doesn't mean no one can't get to the destination. Specially when it comes to human, it's obvious everyone is capable of goodness and honor without a book telling them what it consists of.

What if He then points back to this post?
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It doesn't do anything because all your stating is what if these things that contradict my sense of logical, rational, morality, greatness, honor, and spirituality, are all true...we can play the what if card all day...but at the end deists don't come to the conclusion of Christians for a reason...it's because it's not inwardly guided by us to come to these conclusions and they must be accepted by doctrine and be guided as truths outside of properly basic spiritual experience of humanity.