(November 2, 2014 at 11:34 pm)Faith No More Wrote: I realize I'm extremely late to the party, but I've got to break me off a piece of this ignorance.
(November 2, 2014 at 11:34 pm)Faith No More Wrote: That's because you fail to understand just what "came to life" entails. It was simply chemical reactions and matter following physical laws that became self-replicating. It's not as if rocks suddenly turned into frogs.
I find it absolutely AMAZING that you are telling me how it happened, yet you can't go in a lab and demonstrate it lol. And then you say "simply" as if it was no big thing. "Ahhh, it just sort of, happened, plain and simple".
If everything is as simple as you put it, go in a freakin lab and demonstrate it. Can you? No, you can't...so it must not be that simple now, is it?
(November 2, 2014 at 11:34 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Then you fail to understand the reasonable atheist's position. It is because the theist arguments for god fail in every aspect, every time. Given that, the only reasonable position to take is that belief in god is unjustified.
Yeah, it is reasonable to believe that inanimate matter came to life and begin talking and thinking. Alice in Wonderland doesn't have anything on atheism.
(November 2, 2014 at 11:34 pm)Faith No More Wrote: As opposed to the alternative that an undetectable entity that just magically exists poofed the world into existence, made humans out of dirt, and then goes on a thousand year homicidal rampage before coming down to earth as his son to sacrifice himself so he can save you from the things he's going to do you otherwise.
Pretty much, yeah. That is still more reasonable than a process that can't think to be the originator of consciousness. A process that can't see is the originator of vision.
If I blindfolded you and told you to create a human eye out of preexisting material, you wouldn't be able to do it. Yet you believe that a mindless and blind process was able to create vision???
I just don't have the faith to believe in such things.
(November 2, 2014 at 11:34 pm)Faith No More Wrote: And you think naturalism is hard to believe?
No doubt about it. When you people say your typical "magical man" or "sky daddy" man...you aren't doing anything but saying that a magician performed magic tricks, which isn't absurd at all. Magicians perform tricks all the time. That is certainly easy to conceive..we can all conceive of God saying "Let there be light", and there is light.
What we can't conceive (if we are honest with ourselves) is inanimate matter naturally, and suddenly, coming to life. Not only coming to life, but it began thinking...it began talking...it began having sex.
How absurd.
(November 2, 2014 at 11:34 pm)Faith No More Wrote: I guess that statement only makes sense when your understanding of the world is no better than an eight year-old's
The concept of life from nonlife was always absurd to me..even at 8 years old.