RE: Atheism is unreasonable
November 8, 2014 at 2:12 pm
(This post was last modified: November 8, 2014 at 2:26 pm by His_Majesty.)
(November 5, 2014 at 6:37 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: That external means 'outside of Egypt' is a standard you've made up.
No it isn't. I am being asked to provide evidence outside of (external) the Bible, as if that is supposed to somehow diminish the truth value of the Bible...well, I want external sources too.
(November 5, 2014 at 6:37 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: We'd be perfectly happy for external sources about Jesus within Jerusalem contemporary to the time he was supposed to be there. 'External' is 'external to the document where the claim is made', not 'external to the country the claim is made'.
I've already stated that each Gospel is independent and therefore "external" from the other, but all you would do is move goal posts.
(November 5, 2014 at 6:37 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: That you asked for evidence of King Tut's existence external to Egypt. Evidence external to Egypt is unnecessary to reasonably confirm the existence of the boy king, just as evidence external to Palestine is unecessary to confirm the existence of an historical Jesus. Asking for corroborating evidence outside the region the corroborating evidence would most likely be seems...kind of random.
We have both internal and external evidence for Jesus.
(November 5, 2014 at 6:37 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Analogies are not your strong point.
Weaknesses? I have none
(November 5, 2014 at 6:37 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Nonsense. We could figure out the origin of life tomorrow without being one step closer to explaining consciousness, and vice versa.
So in other words, once you solve one problem, you have to deal with the other problem? Well, that was my point
I know deep down inside you like my analogies...so I have another one for you, regarding these two "problems".
Imagine you are running through the woods being chased by Jason with a machete...you are fast, and he is slow...so you are doing a great job of out running him...as you are running, you are approaching a road, and you proceed to run across the road, and right when you get to the middle of the road.......BAM, you get hit by a big mack truck going 70 mph.
Well, you managed to escape one problem (Jason / abiogenesis), but now, you have a completely different problem on your hands (truck /origin of consciousness).
How was that one?
(November 5, 2014 at 6:37 pm)Losty Wrote: Actually to be an atheist you don't have to believe anything. For example, I am an atheist and I believe the world was created by a plate of spaghetti. I believe that life came into existence because on top of that spaghetti there was a meatball all covered in cheese.
Then that plate of spaghetti is....God
(November 5, 2014 at 6:38 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Evolution is a 160 year old LIE.
Because dogs produce dogs, cats produce cats, fish produce fish. Have you ever observed any exceptions to this? I will answer for you: No. So why do you believe that the animals of yesterday was able to do something that the animals of today have never been observed to do?
(November 5, 2014 at 6:44 pm)coldwx Wrote: So then you do deny that the numerous scientist's examining Tut's body in the 19th century lived outside Egyptian antiquity? Is that the argument you are sticking with?
Very unfortunate...
(November 5, 2014 at 6:45 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: I did. Unfortunately it didn't help mask your ignorance about the nature of evidence and scientific research.
Word.
(November 5, 2014 at 6:45 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Ah. I take it you failed to note my intentional reference to Luke 24.
What about it?
(November 5, 2014 at 6:45 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Btw, Santa Claus is pretty popular among the kiddies of the world too. You STILL writing to him?
No.