RE: Atheism is unreasonable
November 8, 2014 at 6:52 pm
(This post was last modified: November 8, 2014 at 7:12 pm by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(November 8, 2014 at 4:08 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 6, 2014 at 7:00 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: I'm not a physicist - But I am an academic researcher to PhD level. So yeah, google is my friend. But you won't see me acting silly saying that a 5 minute google search has given me all the information I need to debunk something that minds far superior and far more dedicated than me have devloped over (often) generations.
I may not have specialized knowledge on some of these subjects, but I am far from a novice, my friend
Yes you are, relatively speaking.
(November 8, 2014 at 4:08 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 6, 2014 at 7:00 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Maybe, maybe not. But hey, let's recognise the fact that it's you who are dismissing the evidence that is given to you as a rebuttal or indeed the evidence of theories that you are rejecting and giving nothing back but unsupported assertions and claims.
Please enlighten me on what evidence I've dismissed?
Every single post that has rebutted your repeated assertions in this thread.
If you're going to evade, at least do it well.
(November 8, 2014 at 4:08 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 6, 2014 at 7:00 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: You're talking about subjects you don't understand as though you were an expert
Please enlighten me on what subjects I've been shown to not understand.
As above.
(November 8, 2014 at 4:08 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 6, 2014 at 7:00 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: , and it's painfully obvious that you don't in fact really get anything aside what your apologist websites are quoting to you (and even then it's hit and miss, it seems).
It sounds like you are on the verge of committing the genetic fallacy. Even if I do get my arguments from apologists websites, so what? It doesn't matter where I got them from, what matters is the truth value. So instead of concerning yourself with where I got it from, how about trying to refute the arguments for a change?
You mean your 'nuh-uh' rebuttal where you convincingly argued that the exodus as biblically Stated has an element of truth to it (by virtue of the dismissal of the evidence that suggests it never happened)?
I don't think I've read anything on this thread that suggests you've posted anything that is worthy of further consideration or that hasn't been rebutted already.
(November 8, 2014 at 4:08 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: Second, for the most part, no apologist alive today has "patented" arguments...every argument that apologists use have been revolutionized from past defenders of theism. So if I get my arguments from today's apologists, that is because they got the same argument from yesterdays apologists. It is the gift that keeps on giving. Third, not only do I present the arguments, but I DEFEND the arguments. I actually know how to defend anything that I present, which I think is evident on here.
I've had years and years (in my early apologetic journey) of being stumped by wise atheists..and every time I got knocked on my ass, I learned from it...gotten smarter, wiser, and clever...and became my own "man" when it comes to defending the faith.
Apologist arguments haven't changed since the religion(s) were invented. Well, tell a lie, they have, but they've been consistently behind the curve of technological, scientific and societal advancement (God of the gaps).
The issue you have with garnering all your information about topics like evolution from apologist websites is that its always wrong.
'Dogs only have dogs.' I mean come the fuck along. Remember a few lines ago where I said your posts showed that your knew nothing about the topics you're talking about?
(November 8, 2014 at 4:08 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 6, 2014 at 7:00 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Dismissal of evidenced claims/theories (etc) requires evidence that falsifies that claim. I can see the odd quotation from WLC and the odd use of Kalam here and there. And that's it. Great job. We're all convinced.
What odd quotation from WLC? Where?
One of your main fallicious arguments in this thread has been Kalam and variants thereof. Apologies if you haven't cited him directly.
(November 8, 2014 at 4:08 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:(November 6, 2014 at 7:00 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Are you ill? Your only rebuttal to the factual statement that the bible is a claim is 'nuh uh'? Wow. Ok...
There was a bigger point that I was making, and I can understand why you chose to ignore it.
Don't be stupid.
(November 8, 2014 at 4:08 pm)His_Majesty Wrote:The lack of evidence for anything in exodus being even remotely accurate is evidence for it being false (as above, no Jewish exodus from Egypt, no visit to Mt Sinai.(November 6, 2014 at 7:00 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Too many to name. How about the Exodus that never happened (no evidence)
Above you accused me of making "unsupported assertions and claims", and here you are down here making the assertion that the Exodus never happened. That is an unsupported claim, sir.
(November 6, 2014 at 7:00 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: , or the Mt Sinai that was never visited (no evidence).
Another unsupported claim.
(November 6, 2014 at 7:00 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Or the characters in the bible that never lived to be over 800 years old (no evidence) and so on and so on.
Yet, another one.
(November 6, 2014 at 7:00 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Exactly my point. I don't expect you to understand or realise just how badly your arguments have been deconstructed and dismantled on this thread, but I suspect a lot of the members and indeed lurkers have had a good time reading through this train wreck.
Yeah, lets have them continue to lurk..they might learn something
The fact that you think Moses lived to be hundreds and hundreds of years old speaks volumes. Tell us again about all these years you've spent researching topics and refining your arguments? You've made, what,40 odd posts thus far and what have you contributed; the same old tired apologist nonsense we've all heared and debunked time and time again. Change the channel already.
Is there someone else we can talk to? A theist who knows what he's doing?
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