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I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will
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RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will
(November 22, 2014 at 4:25 pm)Nope Wrote: When I was a Christian, I thought that freewill was a lovely concept. Of course, the god that I worshiped didn't want his followers to be robots! As I got older, I began to follow some of my ideas to their logical conclusion.

Most Christians will say that their god gave humans free will so that they would freely decide to worship and love him. Awww....who could be upset with that
However, the same free will is responsible for humans doing sometimes unimaginably horrible things to one another.

For a time, I was happy with the answer that a perfect god does not allow evil but that human's free will is the cause of cruelty. Then one day I made the connection. We have free will, according to Christians, because god wants love. That means that babies are raped because god wants love. That is really sick.

After that, I could not believe in the Christian concept of god and that was one of the many things that started my slow movement away from faith.

I was just curious if any of you had considered how twisted the idea of free will and its consequences are?

Would it make you feel any better to know 'free will' is a greek philosophy that crept into the church, and the bible does not mention it?

In fact the bible says the opposite. In that we are all slaves with only one choice. To either be a slave a God or to be a slave of sin.
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I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Nope - November 22, 2014 at 4:25 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Esquilax - November 22, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Nope - November 22, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by psychoslice - November 22, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Chad32 - November 22, 2014 at 6:08 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Esquilax - November 22, 2014 at 7:09 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Neo-Scholastic - November 23, 2014 at 10:49 am
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Nope - November 23, 2014 at 10:59 am
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by abaris - November 23, 2014 at 11:03 am
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Nope - November 23, 2014 at 12:01 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Losty - November 23, 2014 at 7:45 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Cyberman - November 23, 2014 at 7:58 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Chad32 - November 22, 2014 at 7:52 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Nope - November 22, 2014 at 11:00 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Gawdzilla - November 22, 2014 at 6:45 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Smaug - November 22, 2014 at 7:01 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Cyberman - November 22, 2014 at 7:11 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by abaris - November 22, 2014 at 7:42 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by dyresand - November 22, 2014 at 11:59 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by LivingNumbers - November 23, 2014 at 12:56 am
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Chad32 - November 23, 2014 at 9:06 am
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Chad32 - November 23, 2014 at 10:55 am
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Neo-Scholastic - November 23, 2014 at 12:03 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Nope - November 23, 2014 at 12:22 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by The Valkyrie - November 23, 2014 at 6:57 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Nope - November 23, 2014 at 7:16 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by TreeSapNest - November 25, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Esquilax - November 23, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Nope - November 24, 2014 at 12:22 am
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Neo-Scholastic - November 24, 2014 at 10:20 am
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Esquilax - November 25, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Esquilax - November 24, 2014 at 1:55 am
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by LivingNumbers - November 23, 2014 at 11:41 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Chad32 - November 23, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Nope - November 23, 2014 at 2:19 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Chad32 - November 23, 2014 at 2:48 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by abaris - November 23, 2014 at 2:25 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Nope - November 23, 2014 at 2:31 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Drich - November 23, 2014 at 1:32 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Chad32 - November 23, 2014 at 1:37 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Smaug - November 23, 2014 at 2:03 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Chad32 - November 23, 2014 at 2:16 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Smaug - November 23, 2014 at 2:31 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Nope - November 23, 2014 at 4:06 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Cyberman - November 23, 2014 at 4:31 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Smaug - November 23, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Chad32 - November 23, 2014 at 6:54 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Smaug - November 23, 2014 at 6:54 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Nope - November 23, 2014 at 7:26 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by The Valkyrie - November 23, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Chad32 - November 23, 2014 at 7:32 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Nope - November 23, 2014 at 7:48 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Smaug - November 23, 2014 at 8:06 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by SpecUVdust - November 23, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by ManMachine - November 23, 2014 at 8:28 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by dyresand - November 24, 2014 at 10:52 am
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Nope - November 24, 2014 at 11:57 am
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Losty - November 24, 2014 at 11:29 am
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by TreeSapNest - November 25, 2014 at 4:57 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Chad32 - November 24, 2014 at 11:39 am
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Nope - November 24, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Chad32 - November 24, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by dyresand - November 24, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Chad32 - November 24, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by robvalue - November 25, 2014 at 5:33 am
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Tonus - November 25, 2014 at 2:55 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Losty - November 25, 2014 at 6:10 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Nope - November 26, 2014 at 12:59 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Tonus - November 26, 2014 at 1:27 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by abaris - November 26, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will - by Schwa - December 4, 2014 at 8:04 pm

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