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Theodicy and kicking the can
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RE: Theodicy and kicking the can
(November 26, 2014 at 3:00 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: Your current notion of love revolves around comparing it to other states…That isn't to say that it cannot exist without those other negatives.
Not exactly. The potential for moral evil is necessarily present when the potential for voluntary love is present. But the actualization of moral evil is not necessary.

(November 26, 2014 at 3:00 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: Are you saying that God is incapable of creating creatures capable of knowing love without also knowing suffering/evil?
No, what I am saying is that God cannot create creatures capable of actualizing good, without the potential for doing evil.

(November 26, 2014 at 3:00 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: …why can't God just create us with that level of development?
Because it is not necessary to do so because creation is an on-going process. Children’s’ fields of moral action are comparatively smaller than those of mature adults. Each stage of development corresponds with different levels of potential for both moral good and moral evil.

(November 26, 2014 at 3:00 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: If heaven is a state achieved due to moral development, and people "always" do the right thing, then it seems you've ended up with a place where everyone has voluntarily taken the love potion.
Not at all. They have habituated themselves to good and cultivated righteous character.
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Theodicy and kicking the can - by RobbyPants - November 26, 2014 at 9:40 am
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by Tonus - November 26, 2014 at 9:52 am
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by Grandizer - November 26, 2014 at 9:53 am
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by Tonus - November 26, 2014 at 10:48 am
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by RobbyPants - November 26, 2014 at 10:34 am
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by Nope - November 26, 2014 at 10:36 am
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by RobbyPants - November 26, 2014 at 10:45 am
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by Cheerful Charlie - November 30, 2014 at 7:32 pm
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by RobbyPants - December 2, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by abaris - December 2, 2014 at 6:00 pm
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by RobbyPants - November 26, 2014 at 10:48 am
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by Tonus - November 26, 2014 at 1:36 pm
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by Neo-Scholastic - November 26, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by Angrboda - November 26, 2014 at 2:32 pm
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by Neo-Scholastic - November 26, 2014 at 2:48 pm
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by RobbyPants - November 26, 2014 at 3:00 pm
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by FatAndFaithless - November 26, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by Neo-Scholastic - November 26, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by FatAndFaithless - November 26, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by Nope - November 26, 2014 at 4:14 pm
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by Neo-Scholastic - November 26, 2014 at 8:06 pm
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by Neo-Scholastic - November 26, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by RobbyPants - November 28, 2014 at 10:43 pm
RE: Theodicy and kicking the can - by dyresand - December 2, 2014 at 10:56 pm

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