(December 7, 2014 at 5:13 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:It's not a straw man.(December 7, 2014 at 3:23 pm)LostLocke Wrote: The 5th way? Let's see....Your response only shows that you have not studied the argument before presenting a strawman of it. The fifth way is not a design argument as modernly understood. Common experience shows that efficient causes are directed towards specific sets of results and not just any random effects.
"The Fifth Way: Argument from Design
We see that natural bodies work toward some goal, and do not do so by chance."
BZZZZT. First point was wrong right off the bat.
Causes, efficient or not, don't work 'towards a goal'. Causes just happen.